Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Icarian]

How you conveniently forget proper animation/position synchs, client trust, netcode and its predictions... higher/lower latency is not the only possible factor.

I don't have any problem with any of that, neither does anyone on my set and I'm sure there's barely anyone that has those problems, if at all.

If it was on SE's end everyone would be affected, not just some arbitrary number of people.

While the client/server code is far from perfect and has its fair share of problems (ie: not being able to hit a moving target as melee and stuff like that), it certainly doesn't make you unable to complete the current content.

[Jaykos]

I don't have any problem with any of that, neither does anyone on my set and I'm sure there's barely anyone that has those problems, if at all.

If it was on SE's end everyone would be affected, not just some arbitrary number of people.

While the client/server code is far from perfect and has its fair share of problems (ie: not being able to hit a moving target as melee and stuff like that), it certainly doesn't make you unable to complete the current content.

Yeah good for you that you have no lag but this is a thread for people that do. The fact that the first post has over 700 likes and the thread is also 180 pages long should tell you something. Also have a look at this search for "lag" on the forums http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...=17506705&pp=0

So kindly FUCK OFF.

[Icarian]

Yeah good for you that you have no lag but this is a thread for people that do. The fact that the first post has over 700 likes and the thread is also 180 pages long should tell you something. Also have a look at this search for "lag" on the forums http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...=17506705&pp=0

So kindly FUCK OFF.

Dude, take some fresh air will you? Care to point where exactly did I say that?

Seriously, some people just refuse to reason and just want to have someone to cry and complain to, the fact that it doesn't affect everybody and it's avoidable with a VPN should tell someone with a functioning brain that it can not be on SE's end, because that wouldn't do anything, especially the VPN part.

[DeceptionsWrath]

Dude, take some fresh air will you? Care to point where exactly did I say that?

Seriously, some people just refuse to reason and just want to have someone to cry and complain to, the fact that it doesn't affect everybody and it's avoidable with a VPN should tell someone with a functioning brain that it can not be on SE's end, because that wouldn't do anything, especially the VPN part.

News Flash: Console players can not use VPNs. And we certainly can't tell our ISP's how to route anything. So, any other solutions besides quitting the game?

[DeceptionsWrath]

Tupsi.... Please point me to where it's been confirmed that it's an ISP issue please. Also, i'm with charter communications, i didn't see that in your little list. Defend SE all you want, in the end no matter whos fault this issue is, it'll cost SE money. No other MMO has issues like this, and we're all using our same ISP. So... I'm really not sure what the deal is here. Just the fact i'm getting better quality servers on free to play games really makes me question the reason i'm paying subscription fee in the first place.

[Laf]

I don't have any problem with any of that, neither does anyone on my set and I'm sure there's barely anyone that has those problems, if at all

huh... It seems you don't understand what some of those phrases even mean/do?

If it was on SE's end everyone would be affected, not just some arbitrary number of people

Everyone is affected... but below certain latency you just don't experience ill effects...

While the client/server code is far from perfect and has its fair share of problems (ie: not being able to hit a moving target as melee and stuff like that), it certainly doesn't make you unable to complete the current content.

So you are just speaking just from your POV... I like red colour, I bet everyone does!


Proper server side prediction and some client trust would really help for high latency players.

[Fuz]

So you are just speaking just from your POV... I like red colour, I bet everyone does!

It's the usual "I HAEV NU PRUBLEMS SO NOBODY DOES HURR DURR!!1!" that keeps going since page 1.

No other MMO has issues like this

Is it really so hard to understand it?

[Deheuty]

I don't have any problem with any of that, neither does anyone on my set and I'm sure there's barely anyone that has those problems, if at all.

If it was on SE's end everyone would be affected, not just some arbitrary number of people.

Your arguments are flawed as well. The first is the ever-so-often used argument from ignorance. And the phrase 'I'm sure there's barely anyone that has those problems, if at all' is clearly FALSE. Have you been reading the posts in this thread?

Second, just because the problem doesn't affect EVERYONE or EVERYONE ALL THE TIME doesn't imply (i) it doesn't affect SOME people SOME of the (crucial) times. Moreover, it can still be SE's fault when they created problems that happen to SOME people SOME of the time. Since when for a fault to be blameworthy it necessarily needs to fulfil your criteria of 'everyone' and 'all the time' clause? For instance, I am a forgetful cashier at a grocery checkout - I give back the wrong change to *some* of my customer *some* of the time - does that mean I am not at fault?

[Vilzen]

Honestly a bit of movement prediction server side would fix most of this. If you're running to the right you should stay that way until the server gets the packet that says you stopped.