Stop "fixing" the MW scrap it

[Kilta_Firelotus]

A few posts in this thread cracked me up! The way I look at it is this... You can polish a turd all day long, and at the end of the day you still have a turd. MW didn't make the grade. Give us something that works; give us an AH.

And AH don;t work either as at times It takes me longer to get gear from say the ffxi AH then it does the ffxiv MW.

Stop saying MW do not work when you complainers ruined it in the first place. You guys made it harder on your selves SE just put them in.

Oh and btw.... Some cultures use "poop" in pottery Like bat poop bowls. So a polished turd can become fine art pretty easily.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You did not spend 2-3 hours getting armor and ninja scrolls on FFXI's AH unless there were none put up and you were waiting for someone to post the items.

You are a god damn liar.

nope that was due to all the bidding and comparing items Mostly the bidding. Stop saying I'm a lier. I do not lie.
Stop saying stupid stuff with out thinking or asking questions. In ffxi not all items were always listed under the "last bought" price list. Or did you not realise this happen? I've seen items be last sold for 10K and it takes me 30 tries to "win" a bid. You didn't buy out items on the ffxi AH you placed a bid. And this was a full set of gear from head to toe rings and neck included. this was also 10+ sets of tool belts 1 belt stack for each ninja spell sometimes took me 10 bids. neck gear can be 40 bids. Each bid takes about 1-2 min to go through depending where you are. So no. Seriously guys stop being so stupid and release that nothing was 100% fast with an AH.

[Wolfie]

I'm calling you out on your BS posts.

Were you incrementing by 1 gil at a time?

If you were doing normal increments, 100; 1,000; 10,000; it would not take you 30 attempts per item to deck yourself out. No bid takes 1-2 minutes to go through, it takes 10 seconds tops. Any latency worse than 10 seconds would net you in a server disconnect.

Moreover, you said that it takes longer to get your items in WOW's AH, where you can see the price and buy the item directly from the menu, and take a single 10 second trip to a mailbox to pick all of them up at once.

You're a liar.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

in some cases MW are better then AH.

compare to WoWs AH
1 better organized list of where your item is
2 no waiting for itens to be put in a mail box
3 not having to bid on an item due to a rediculously high buy out cost.
4 not having to deal with bidding and waiting several hours only to find you was out bid.

FFXI AH
1 you know the price right off the bat
2 no need to worry about bidding
3 no more worring about being a split second late in getting the last item listed.


What we can improve
1 key word feature
2 a menu buy out but taxing the buyer.
3 a larger area for retainers to deal with space issues
4 automatic preplaced locations and retainers automaticaly use stall and have option to "model" your wares through it.


There is no serious issue with the MW and only complaint is walking to a retainer. But that is the same time it takes to make a bid or wait/ getting an item from the AH/mail box.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I'm calling you out on your BS posts.

Were you incrementing by 1 gil at a time?

If you were doing normal increments, 100; 1,000; 10,000; it would not take you 30 attempts per item to deck yourself out. No bid takes 1-2 minutes to go through, it takes 10 seconds tops. Any latency worse than 10 seconds would net you in a server disconnect.

Moreover, you said that it takes longer to get your items in WOW's AH, where you can see the price and buy the item directly from the menu, and take a single 10 second trip to a mailbox to pick all of them up at once.

You're a liar.

nope not all the time with WoW sometimes on the weekends the AH would be so congested there will be a notic on waiting due to congestion

And no I wasn't going up 1 gi;. More like 500-1K-10K iincriments. I'm not bsing. If you need proof log into Lakshmi and track down a Soulus. He used to complain how long i spent at the AH. Due to all the crap I mentioned. Stop assuming AH is perfect. It isn't.

[Joeking]

Oh my Goddess! Best Idea Ever, just make all items non-tradeable remove MW, remove trade function.

Crisis & Conflict Averted.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I have nothing to gain about lying about the ffxi AH. I'm talking about my REAL experiences, [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]. This stuff did happen in ffxi. And it got worst. I try to get items so I do not have to deal with the AH in ffxi. I hated wasting time I could spent with my b/f ingame and having fun with him since we was long distance. I would have so much time wasted he would get mad and end up not having time to help me on a mission or hang out with me.

Again I have nothing to gain by lying. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] It also didn't take 10 seconds either I timed it. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] ... I did infact say, "depending on some areas" Like Whitegate had a ton of lag, so bid loading took a while at times. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]

[Wolfie]

in some cases MW are better then AH.

compare to WoWs AH
1 better organized list of where your item is

Bull****. WOW's AH as a tree menu that lists every item category, and every slot.

http://www.wowction.com/wp-content/u...cutting-ah.jpg

Each one of those menus on the left side opens up into a multi-level tree structure.

2 no waiting for itens to be put in a mail box

Items are placed in your inventory, but you have to run around more than you do in WOW. In WOW, you purchase all your items, and take a single trip to your mailbox to purchase all of them. For one single item, MW is on par with WOW because you have to factor in zone time and walking up to the retainer. For two or more items, WOW beats FFXIV hands down.

3 not having to bid on an item due to a rediculously high buy out cost.

Less than 1% of sellers and buyers make use of the bid function. It's a legacy feature on AH. Everything is done through buyout prices. There ARE no "rediculously high buy out" costs, because items go stale on the AH and price gouging encourages undercutting.

4 not having to deal with bidding and waiting several hours only to find you was out bid.

See above.

Not going to argue the case against FFXI's AH, because it sucked and MW is definitely better for everyone, but it's not faster in any shape.

Want something different? Compare MW to Aion's trade broker. If you don't know how that works, picture WOW's AH, but without the option of allowing bids and items are instantly placed in your inventory on purchase.

[Radaghast]

Wards are horrible. If you think it's bad now with the low population, wait until it picks up.

This whole game was designed around attempting to stop RMT so maybe they didn't have to hire more STF or something. Wards were included to make it harder to price gouge or take advantage of certain markets. It failed, miserably.

AH is convenience. It's faster to get to what you want, easier to put things up for sale, and doesn't take 20 instances of randomly placed retainers to do it. Get this shit out of here already.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

In Aion you told not to use the AH i found out why and never did.
If they streamlined WoW's AH or your talking about an AH addon i do not know of it. I'm talking about not using any addons and from wrath day 1.
I also said you need to load up every letter unless they changed it, again if they did I di not know and if so sorry my info was out dated. The WoW I knew wasn't well organised and slow to get items.

I like the wards and they fit a purpose. No need to crap it. If you guys do not get why SE put them in, you fail.

In ffxi Ah's somet9imes would fill up on items and people sold them in their personal bazaar, this congested towns / zones and caused lag. Also if you played casually and couldn't leave your pc running or game system you pretyy much was SOL. that is why they made the wards. And why they keeping them. Just add a buy out option from the menu, but let those who enjoy the inter active immersive experience do so.

You guys made MW not work fyi. Not SE.