[Suggestion] Trial of the Magians

[Kyriea]

Can we go through with putting out ideas that are actually thoughtful and cool instead of exact rip offs from other games that you want just because you want to feel nostalgic? It adds nothing, but grind. The only people who put up with it were rabid FFXI lovers. You ate up everything XI even the stuff that made you look like a masochist. Great for you. This game already has enough of stolen MMO systems. It's time for them to take some risks now that it seems their game is doing better than anticipated.

That is something I want to see in the future. Risk.

Technically copying XI would be the biggest risk of all... Seriously though there were some great content designs in XI that a lot of people never saw because they didn't want to "put up" with the grind to get there. Not every aspect of XI was a grind and if anything XIV is just as bad. Time gated content is just a cheap and easy way of stopping a possible grind. It still keeps you from getting what you want for a significant amount of time in order to keep you playing, the only difference is you get bored quicker and wonder why you're paying a subscription for a game you only play once a week till you reach the weekly cap.

[Tupsi]

Suggestion: something not based on another FF game for once

Every FF game has stuff based around other FF games - You may be better off playing ...Wildstar? Maplestory? Rift?

Can we go through with putting out ideas that are actually thoughtful and cool instead of exact rip offs from other games that you want just because you want to feel nostalgic?

Better tell SE to drop their plans for Chocobo Breeding and Racing (FFVII, FFIX, FFXI, FFXIII-2) and Golden Saucer (FFVII) and...you get the picture.

[Blaize]

TL;DR
Bring back this awesome system, SE

You can't bring something back that wasn't there to begin with. FFXI is a different game, understand? I loved FFXI in its time, but honestly I want to see NONE of the systems in that game in any game I play ever again...everything was designed to eat up as much time as possible, I'm sorry but FFXI Killed my patience with their silly systems, and I'm probably not alone on that thought either.

TLDR

Leave FFXI Systems in FFXI Where they belong, I dont got time for that crap no more!

[Orophin]

What was awesome about killing 5000 crabs?

[Malamasala]

How about we focus on the good parts of the system?

I really liked that it was a system where you could pick an upgrade path suiting your style of playing. I worked some on a multi hit DD staff for my Summoner because SE never gave the job any good melee weapons. It was awesome getting a spirit taker quickly, and fun with all the multi hitting.

I'd really love to see less of these "THIS IS WHAT WE DECIDED, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" game design, and more where it is our choice of how to progress in the game.

[Rhindas]

What was awesome about killing 5000 crabs?

Did you know there's a reference to that in the Softshell (I think that's the name? THe crab minion) pet?

[Duelle]

I really liked that it was a system where you could pick an upgrade path suiting your style of playing. I worked some on a multi hit DD staff for my Summoner because SE never gave the job any good melee weapons. It was awesome getting a spirit taker quickly, and fun with all the multi hitting.

That worked in FFXI because most of the systems were incomplete or poorly-implemented enough where that sort of leeway was given. Trinity MMOs don't have that because then you're one step away from an unbalanced clusterf*ck.

Not to mention melee SMN was worse off than melee RDMs, and you know the latter was NEVER used in content that mattered.

[SarcasmMisser]

Leave FFXI Systems in FFXI Where they belong, I dont got time for that crap no more!

I'm going to go ahead and like this, so many suggestions lately amount to "make this game ffxi, my childhood nostalgia demands it!" Reading posts gives me the feeling I'm alone in thinking that these ideas deserve a proper burial so ARR can continue being the modern mmo it was designed to be.

But I know better than to take the vocal minority as consensus, and sub numbers don't lie.

[Kyata]

But I know better than to take the vocal minority as consensus, and sub numbers don't lie.

Unfortunately, that's how it seems to be going.

What my opening post looks like to everyone is this:

First off, for those that don't know what TotM is, it's a system for upgrading weapons and gear in FFXI $#%@%$^@#%&!$#%$%%&^$(*@#$^@$#%&$%&#$*@%*$%&$%^@$%^@$%&@$%^&*@$*(@$&@$%&@$%#&@$^*($%^*&@!$#%*&#$^*#^%$&@$%*@$*(*&^*&%*@$%&@$%*&$^*&#@^%$*@%&@$%^&*@#$^$&@$%&

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The premature bias is amazing, no one's even looking at my post or noticing that I mentioned it would have to be "tweaked to fit FFXIV and its playerbase" which obviously don't seem to like rewarding achievements or choices, they need everything handed to them immediately and without having to do much work to earn them.
I've seen people complain about the 24 mobs you need to kill for the relic quest, I know they won't take nicely to 200+.

I don't know about everyone else, but I like to get my rewards after hard work, so I can feel like I accomplished something worthwhile. I can count the amount of times I, or anyone on my vent channel yelled out in joy for something we did or received on one hand.

Anyway, I did my share of posting so the community reps can see it. If it's deemed worthy enough to pass on to devs, it will be.

Thanks for the thoughts anyway, regardless of how biased they were.

[ReplicaX]

TL;DR Bring back this awesome system, SE

In your opinion.

I have fully experienced all that is trial of the Magians. Including an Amano to 99, an Aegis to 95, Kannagi, offhand weapons, AF, etc. This would include hours and hours of helping others with theirs.

In my humble opinion, no thanks. Not even a tweaked version.