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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Tanks That Hate Fluid Aura

    I main a WAR but in pursuit of leveling every job, I've been working on WHM lately. As a tank, I found it annoying when a WHM would use Fluid Aura on the primary target everyone was attacking but was fine if they used it on a secondary or tertiary target (after all, it does a little more outgoing damage and slows incoming damage a bit).

    However, as a WHM, I'm finding that many tanks complain about WHMs doing this. DPS never complains, just the tanks. Explaining why I use it and promising to only hit secondary/tertiary targets with it solves nothing. Tanks are still telling me not to use a cool ability that I have sitting there on my hotbar.

    I have actually gotten votekicked for using Fluid Aura (apparently tank commands are law). I did report the party (not that I expect it did one bit of good).

    So this is what I think:

    WHM has Fluid Aura. Are we really intended not to use it, except maybe as a safety button if the tank loses hate? And tanks even complain about that use too btw.

    What's wrong with using it the way I'm using it? I can stand relatively close to the tank against most regular trash packs making it easy to regain aggro with Flash if I should happen to steal it. I think tanks that can't deal with WHM using Fluid Aura are just bad tanks (the same tanks often complain about people dotting all targets! LOL).

    I just wish tanks didn't tell me how to play my job. It's always in Tam Tara too for some reason which makes me also wonder:

    a) Why do I always get Tam Tara w/ Low Level Roulette?

    and

    b) Why are tanks getting so bent out of shape about Tam Tara?!
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    Pseudopsia's Avatar
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    Kare Ruhts
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    Please don't use fluid aura unless you're trying to save yourself or another DD.

    For a tank it gives the appearance of losing control and If tank is aoe tanking flash will miss it.
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    Rivienne Bertouaint
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    As WHM, when I used Fluid Aura in dungeons it was specific. It was either in a direction where it wouldn't move the target, or where it would as a safety button while I threw a heal on someone it had been attacking. Or on dungeon bosses, who are immune to the push back effect. Just because it is annoying when the target shifts around as is, I don't want to do that to someone else. For tanks that aren't very good at targeting this can be especially frustrating.

    So just play it safe. Position yourself so the push back is against a target on a wall so they don't move for example. If the target never moves, or only when someone is taking heavy damage, I have never had anyone complain.
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    A. I don't know
    B. Most people find it annoying when they are supposed to be controlling all the mobs to have one knocked out into left field, most tanks immediate reaction is to chase the mob down as usually when a mob goes flying away from them it's because they've lost hate and now it's eating a party members face. Funny you reported them for kicking you, seems like your feelings were hurt because three people decided they didn't like how you were playing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    Please don't use fluid aura unless you're trying to save yourself or another DD.

    For a tank it gives the appearance of losing control and If tank is aoe tanking flash will miss it.
    I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. Tanks will just have to adapt. Besides OMG I lost control of a Tam Tara trash mob. Big deal. I can solo the mobs there on WHM (it's slow admittedly LOL)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    A. I don't know
    B. Most people find it annoying when they are supposed to be controlling all the mobs to have one knocked out into left field, most tanks immediate reaction is to chase the mob down as usually when a mob goes flying away from them it's because they've lost hate and now it's eating a party members face. Funny you reported them for kicking you, seems like your feelings were hurt because three people decided they didn't like how you were playing the game.
    Well that is votekick abuse FYI. Using an ability the way others don't like it isn't harassment, cheating, etc.
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    Woden Pendragon
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 50
    ive been on both sides of this action as well..when playing as a WHM i wont use it until the said monster is almost dead or when another player besides the tank catches aggro...i truly believe ppl. only want healers to heal only while in dungeons or parties.Not to mention for a healer to put out damage is kinda frowned upon for the most part ........use sleep instead
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    Mordermi Auditore
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    The problem is that it messes people up, even if only slightly, for an insignificant amount of damage that really does nothing positive for the party. Even if it isn't the primary target, the tank will still be targeting it occasionally, and throwing a mob halfway across the room might throw off the tank's rotation. The same goes for dps. If the dps is AoE'ing, or throwing DoTs up on all of the mobs, then it will mess them up. Sure, it doesn't really cause that big of a problem, but it's a minor annoyance for the whole party, and really serves no purpose.

    Edit: I'd also like to note that I would not have vote kicked you, and wouldn't have even asked you to stop. Also, I have no problem with healers playing dps a bit as long as I don't die. I just like my mobs to stay still.
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    Last edited by Mordermi; 02-07-2014 at 05:23 AM.

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    Synaptic Striker
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    Did anyone mentioned Garuda?..

    Annoying as hell when it kicks a clockwork bug out of AOE.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. Tanks will just have to adapt. Besides OMG I lost control of a Tam Tara trash mob. Big deal. I can solo the mobs there on WHM (it's slow admittedly LOL)
    Let me get this straight. You ask in OP why tanks get angry about WHMs using fluid aura. People respond with obvious reason why you should not use it. You respond by saying you're going to do it anyway like a stubborn child.

    Tanks need to hit all mobs with flash (or other AoE abilities). You are screwing with their hate management. Stop. The only reasonable time to use it is if someone is in danger... but even in this situation, you would probably be better off curing them.
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