It's become a chore to even log on to the game

[Mihael_Longclaw]

So this is the only mmo youve ever played. You dont even have anything to compare it to. Thats like playing halo without ever playing any pther firat person shooter. maybe you just don't like mmos because I can tell you right now this is one of the least lifeless feeling mmos out there. every storyline isnt going to be as good as a standalone single player rpg. Mmos aren't about the story. Even so, I did read your post, not just the title. Still no point to your post. Why are you still here?

And you keep saying "the game you had hoped it would be." What exactly does that mean? You have no ground to stand on bro. You're just complaining to complain.

Well I've played Demon/Dark Souls, White Knight Chronicles 2 and Runescape, but I was legitamately not sure if those are even considered MMOs

- Demon/Dark Souls not being persistent multiplayer games
- WKC2 not being fully multiplayer either, and terribly flawed in some aspects and grindy but did some things right
- Runescape I think was the most MMO'y, but it was completely solo oriented, flawed and grindy but I loved the fleshed out quests, music, side events and crafting/gathering and the economy was more lively

About the hoped it had been, it was mostly pertaining to beta, trailers, and the Final Fantasy brand behind it.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

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If it doesn't result in gear or tokens to get gear then it isn't content!

I'd save the 90 mins a week if I were u as it doesn't sound like you even enjoy that time in the first place

This is the kind of game that needs to incentivise you to play it, I can go play something like Okami just to do trials, painting, bosses or minigames for the fun of it

This game doesn't add necessarily fun content but moreso content that is designed to try and prey on players with addictive personalities I think

[Sandpark]

Your comment on the elemental wheel and more team synergized specific actions was tried before ARR on the old XIV.I liked alot of what the original XIV attempted better never fleshed out.
Any zone could use explorable environments.I want to get lost sometimes, it's what makes each journey fresh and unpredictable.

As for your comments on the other disciples. The old XIV tried making those alot more deeper than they currently are. A decision was made to downplay that and focus on the battle classes.

I see many things you ask for that were present in the original XIV. They went a different direction over the course of two years. And I highly doubt they are going to revert back again and make the game FFXIV A Realm Reincarnated X 2.

You should try FFXI with some close friends together then come back and see with more clarity what this game does good as far as Final Fantasy goes.

The only thing I want is more "true" options to solo or group. For quests, for everything in ARR.

[Mega_Man_U]

As an aside, where do you believe this thread should have been put?

Oh no, it's in the right place. It's just not worth 27 pages of repeating the same points over and over.

[Peptaru]

Oh no, it's in the right place. It's just not worth 27 pages of repeating the same points over and over.

I place the blame for that on the people who haven't read the posts in the thread; the people who have made the same points toward, and criticisms of, Mihael that 12 other people have. The extended length of this is due to them.

[JanVanding]

Oh no, it's in the right place. It's just not worth 27 pages of repeating the same points over and over.

Actually the larger a thread, the more likely the Mods are going to attract Dev attention to that thread due to it being a hot topic.

Some people are choosing to attack opinions rather than intelligently debate why they feel that point might not be correct. MMO Developers make money from a Majority not a Minority, if the Majority isn't happy, then the game either changes to fit that Majority or the game becomes free to play in order to increase the Minority to a Majority.

This game has costs that SE needs to balance, losing subs is bad for balancing the books. When a game starts losing money things start to become very grim.

FFXIV isn't losing money yet, but it's on the same trend as games like SWTOR, bleeding subs at a rate that it'll have to go Free to Play or some other drastic action to pay for the costs in a few months, Dead or Dying servers are the first sign.

Note there are Dead or Dying servers already.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

This is the kind of game that needs to incentivise you to play it, I can go play something like Okami just to do trials, painting, bosses or minigames for the fun of it

This game doesn't add necessarily fun content but moreso content that is designed to try and prey on players with addictive personalities I think

Sorry. The facts don't support your opinions.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/...-14-as-saviour

Actually the larger a thread, the more likely the Mods are going to attract Dev attention to that thread due to it being a hot topic.

Some people are choosing to attack opinions rather than intelligently debate why they feel that point might not be correct. MMO Developers make money from a Majority not a Minority, if the Majority isn't happy, then the game either changes to fit that Majority or the game becomes free to play in order to increase the Minority to a Majority.

This game has costs that SE needs to balance, losing subs is bad for balancing the books. When a game starts losing money things start to become very grim.

FFXIV isn't losing money yet, but it's on the same trend as games like SWTOR, bleeding subs at a rate that it'll have to go Free to Play or some other drastic action to pay for the costs in a few months, Dead or Dying servers are the first sign.

Note there are Dead or Dying servers already.

Where are you getting your completely fictional numbers?

[Vensaval]

Sorry. The facts don't support your opinions.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/...-14-as-saviour

Yes, the game did do well in the financial department, and it's sure to keep stable as time goes on. However, that in no way negates any of our opinions, complaints, concerns, or suggestions. For a (seemingly) large amount of people to cancel their subs only a few months after the release of an MMORPG, which should be designed to keep said players playing for at least a year or two as a reasonable minimum, the game likely will not keep doing so well.

FFXIV: ARR's success was largely due to the failure of the original. That, plus the hype behind it and general hope that SE fans have had for years now made the sales as high as they were.

I'm grateful for that. I love SE and I do love this game. However, I cannot deny that this game is lacking a terrible amount of immersion it needs to keep people playing. Especially when it comes to combat.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Yes, the game did do well in the financial department, and it's sure to keep stable as time goes on. However, that in no way negates any of our opinions, complaints, concerns, or suggestions. For a (seemingly) large amount of people to cancel their subs only a few months after the release of an MMORPG, which should be designed to keep said players playing for at least a year or two as a reasonable minimum, the game likely will not keep doing so well.

FFXIV: ARR's success was largely due to the failure of the original. That, plus the hype behind it and general hope that SE fans have had for years now made the sales as high as they were.

I'm grateful for that. I love SE and I do love this game. However, I cannot deny that this game is lacking a terrible amount of immersion it needs to keep people playing. Especially when it comes to combat.

The problem with this and everyone's opinion is the key word "seemingly". None of you have any kind of data to back up these claims. I don't know how your servers are doing but Excalibur is still jam packed with players. What are you all basing this assumption on?

The problem with this and everyone's opinion is the key word "seemingly". None of you have any kind of data to back up these claims. I don't know how your servers are doing but Excalibur is still jam packed with players. What are you all basing this assumption on?

[astrobearthe2nd]

The problem with this and everyone's opinion is the key word "seemingly". None of you have any kind of data to back up these claims. I don't know how your servers are doing but Excalibur is still jam packed with players. What are you all basing this assumption on?

their own biased notion