It's become a chore to even log on to the game

[Xairos]

Recently i've been watching a certain MrHappy stream FFXI and it has solidified my disposition toward current generation mmos and the ones that we all grew up on.

I, too, miss the hidden mechanics of older games. The developers really strove to create real, virtual worlds. Worlds that drew us in (or pushed us away). 10 Min Boat ride to a new continent? Perfect for immersion.

However games of today, in all genres, have it tough. They have to compete with each other on several fronts:
1) they have to draw us in. Example: Pokemon X/Y (new gen! yay!)

2) They have to entertain. Example: This pokemon game is really fun.

3) They have to keep us coming back. Usually via some carrot on a stick. Example: In this new pokemon game, it's very easy to "train" your pokemon for the stats you want them to have. Thus, more people will try it out and maybe they will stick around.

However with more options we as consumers have, it becomes harder for games to achieve that third goal. It is now more easier than ever for us to pick up a game, and then drop it a month or two later. Example: I don't even touch pokemon and it came out when? 4 Months ago. Nintendo got my purchase, but didn't retain me.

And that is just a single player game.

TLDR: I kinda feel bad for game today. They have so much more competition than when I was growing up so they usually have to pander to a lower goal in order to retain gamers.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

10 Min Boat ride to a new continent? Perfect for immersion. .

I would spend most of my airship rides in FFXI trying to clip the boat and get down to the inaccessible lower deck

[NefGP]

I actually like that mobs are labelled as aggressive or passive personally. However I do miss having different types of aggro in XI, as well as Sneak & Invis. I also like that overworld mobs are generally toned down (they were too tough in XI let's be honest) however as was said before, it is a bit silly that you can basically waltz past high level mobs and survive as long as you're not hit by heavy. There should be some sense of risk in the world, I mean it's kinda stupid how we can just waltz into Zah'rhak or w/e (beastman stronghold of all things) and just lay waste to everything in sight.


You try that crap in Castle Zvhal (S) and you will get OWNED, HARD (well maybe not as much since the cap went up but it's still a deadly place).

[Thunderz]

Outside of 1 dungeon the game is boring

There is nothing that brings the community together

essentially just sit in town while while Q'ing stuff

I miss actually going To the door steps of a dungeon and opening the front door with my buddies behind me

Whats the point of designing a whole area for you to raid in when the only thing you need to do is unlock it once and never go back there again

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Outside of 1 dungeon the game is boring

There is nothing that brings the community together

essentially just sit in town while while Q'ing stuff

I miss actually going To the door steps of a dungeon and opening the front door with my buddies behind me

Whats the point of designing a whole area for you to raid in when the only thing you need to do is unlock it once and never go back there again

This has annoyed me to no end as well, click the glowing thing or queue up in party finder, Haukke Manor feels like a rock wall, that you can magicall teleport inside, not a haunted mansion especially with it being on a sunnyy hill, make it always storming and gloomy outside, bats flying around, the moonlight shining down.

It's also a disgrace the beautiful and atmospheric music of Aurum Vale lasts like 2 seconds, and totally disspaears, it could totally give the dungeons new life.

[Ravinous]

Outside of 1 dungeon the game is boring

There is nothing that brings the community together

essentially just sit in town while while Q'ing stuff

I miss actually going To the door steps of a dungeon and opening the front door with my buddies behind me

Whats the point of designing a whole area for you to raid in when the only thing you need to do is unlock it once and never go back there again

I blame the casuals from WoW for this. Blizzard started handing content to the casuals, because they felt left out or they didn't want to put in the time anymore cause they have a "real life" to do. That they couldn't see end game content so after Burning Crusade they started making the game easier and easier. Till you have WoD where you can build a town hire some NPC to run raids/dungeons for you, and get epic gear from that. Not only that but the entitlement issue as well "I spend $15 a month to play this game I should get what I want when I want"...

[Divinyl]

I blame the casuals from WoW for this. Blizzard started handing content to the casuals, because they felt left out or they didn't want to put in the time anymore cause they have a "real life" to do. That they couldn't see end game content so after Burning Crusade they started making the game easier and easier. Till you have WoD where you can build a town hire some NPC to run raids/dungeons for you, and get epic gear from that. Not only that but the entitlement issue as well "I spend $15 a month to play this game I should get what I want when I want"...

Don't blame Wow (although I'd like to blame them for losing customers and them coming to the FF series)... blame PC-specific games that have begun to bleed over into casual country (Consoles...).

[Gesser]

The game has boiled down to:

Log-in, complete dailies, complete roulettes, get my piece in CT for the week, down Coil.

There's little-no immersion any longer, it's a slog, and the world presents zero threat & no further reward for engaging it.

[TrystWildkey]

The game has boiled down to:

Log-in, complete dailies, complete roulettes, get my piece in CT for the week, down Coil.

There's little-no immersion any longer, it's a slog, and the world presents zero threat & no further reward for engaging it.

Nicely summed up ^^ Sadly, I agree The dev team that brought us 1.23 could do so much better. I hope that eventually they do!

[Gontrant_Sorel]

The game has boiled down to:

Log-in, complete dailies, complete roulettes, get my piece in CT for the week, down Coil.

There's little-no immersion any longer, it's a slog, and the world presents zero threat & no further reward for engaging it.

I suppose then you now are a bit more happy. You have the valentione event. xD

jokes aside all MMO are the same or worse. once you finish the story there's no more story until the next expansion. some people "burn" the story as fast as they can and then complain there's nothing to do. others slowly enjoy each step of the story and spend their time socializing with other adventurers and helping them.

I'm not going to tell how to play. everybody enjoys the game on his own way but rest assured for me it will last a lot longer than for those that only want to have new content to see how fast can beat it and complain there's no more story.