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  1. #31
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    As mentioned, FFXI was anything but 'low sales', it bankrolled the company for quite some time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zell View Post
    FFXIV is making so much profit that it's effecting the ENTIRE company, not just recouping it's own cost of production. This is amazing news for FFXIV. This means we can expect quality content and resources to be poured into FFXIV. This is great news for those of us who love FFXIV.
    Can't stress this enough. If ARR hadn't been profitable at launch I suspect the bean counters back at SE HQ would have called in time on the 3 month content patch cycle rather swiftly or cut back on the staffing at the very least. As is with it turning over more money than expected and with several nice little cash cows yet to be offered up to the plate (PS4 release, ARR Soundtrack, Mog station Fantasia etc), it's fantastic news for us as I suspect YoshiP will have little trouble getting all the resources and manpower he needs for the content team.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  2. #32
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    I am one of the legacy players that is currently not happy with the game

    I'm just going to clip this from a previous post because I seen many legacy players state this, especially when they bring up WoW Clone (Fun fact: Blizzard got to where they are today by taking the best aspects of other games/artwork/etc and implementing them to their games) but they are missing the point...

    FFXIV was completely bombing in the legacy model, which is why we are in the ARR period. I tried to play it at launch and it was completely clunky and 'meh'. Yes, I know it vastly improved a year later to where people accepted legacy and yes, it was different.

    HOWEVER, it was still going no where in terms of what they want it. The player community spoke, they listened, and implemented things and we got what we have now which a lot more players appreciated.



    Does it suck this is how the market works now? Of course it does. I kinda wish I gave legacy a second chance before it went down, but I didn't. But the truth is in the numbers, SE was bombing for the longest time and I was among those who was playing a game of "How long until SE goes bankrupt like it nearly did with Spirits Within?" and I was expecting that ARR would be a flop, but I was actually happy with the turned product.

    Don't get me wrong, it can be MUCH better still as any game and I hope they touch it up and go back on what they said on crafting always being below that of dungeons and the like- I hope they atually start making crafts better and harder, and hope we get more dungeons with interesting mechanics and gimicks, and I am hoping for the best.


    However, XIV was failing under legacy is what I'm getting at, and it would be dead or on the backburner now at the very least if it wasn't for ARR.
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  3. #33
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    FFXI was the game that maintained SE for some time :P , and it has been the most profitable FF but makes sense ,FFXI u payed the box , month and expansions :P

    FFI to FFXIII > 60$....and thats it

    FFXI? dont want to think about it lol.....but more than 1200$ easy

    FFXIV .....time will tell
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  4. #34
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    I've always loved the Final Fantasy series and it feels good that myself, and all of you, are contributing to keeping the series going in our own little way
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC View Post
    Only 1.5 Millions ps3/pc combinated sales? i was hoping 4 - 5 millions as minimum is a Final Fantasy game.
    Are the sells from the 1.0 boxes included in this number or are this only the ARR boxes?
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyroElf View Post
    Snipped.
    The thing is when WoW started out they took elements from other MMOs of the time and improved upon them, they smoothed out the gaming experience to me more casual friendly and increase accessibility to more people, this game doesn't do that. It pretty much takes things other mmos have done and just gives them a new coat of paint and even then in some situations it makes them worse.

    Fates are a good example of this, they're basically the bastard child of Rifts rift system and the events from GW2, whose name eludes me at the moment. Right now there is no punishment for letting a fate fail aside from certain chains ending prematurely, in Rift if you didn't stop certain fates, the mobs could possibly take over a small quest hub, making it unusable till someone cleaned it out. Now the GW2 side of things, their random events scaled based on those actively participating in the event, not this crap about the next spawn being scaled based on who participated in the one previous. Even WoW has been declining with lil bumps based on patches and expansions, and when the big daddy of the modern hotkey mmo is in decline, now is not the time to copy it, its time to be innovative and try to do something better.

    I'm also going to agree that ARR resuscitated the game, but for how long? People are going to get bored of this style of MMO and the game can tread water for only so long.
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  7. #37
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    Cool, hopefully this surpasses FFVII so we can get that remake going. Lol.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Cool, hopefully this surpasses FFVII so we can get that remake going. Lol.
    Technically XI already has, VII will never be remade thankfully lol, it was already an unfinished mess in the first place. There's a reason they're remaking every FF but the ones people actually want, i.e proper VI remake, proper V remake, IX remake (or just a damn PC port already) and I suppose VII.
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  9. #39
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    I started playing at 1.0 and fell in love, because of the heavy crafting focus. The economy going with that was a whole other we have to date. But the masses didn't like it. OK

    I too play ARR and I like it with some exceptions. The state of crafting for example is lackluster , and be aware that the system is absolutly acceptable to date. It is tuned for the masses and i can make that compromiss. But I can't stand that there obviousily is nothing planed for the future. Furniture and fluff won't do for me. I want to have a competable crafting for the 8 classe we have ingame.

    With those arguments in mind I reduced my sub from 3 month plan and 8 chars per server to 1 month and 1 char.
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    I like Random-Number-Generator
    'cause I'm able to accept that
    a dice normally has six sides
    a pyramid has 5 sides
    a toast has 2 sides
    AND I CAN'T PREDICT WHICH SIDES IT FALLS TO.

  10. #40
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    If they wanted to make a profit remake 7 and 8 with next gen graphics.
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