Stop "fixing" the MW scrap it

[Demacia]

From memory, not having played WoW in ages:

Click the NPC, type what you're searching for, pretty sure you can sort by price, click "buy now", hit ESC a few times, run to mailbox, open mail, take out item. This should only take 2-3 minutes.

For XIV, same item (we'll say Tin Ore, as it's in both games):

Open search menu, click Masons Ward, click Ore, click Tin Ore, note what ward the cheapest retainer's in, click "search for retainers selling this", ESC out, click "Market Wards", click on the right ward, wait for loading screen, find the retainer, double-click the retainer, find the ore on their list, click on the ore, click the numbers for however many you want to buy, click okay.

I'm not sure how you can claim that the second option is faster.

ETA: forgot to include some of the steps in XIV

Don't even bother man. Some posts you just have to let slide.

Well yeah, I've played Aion WoW and Prius Online (JP). They have an Auction House.
Now I'm playing Final Fantasy XIV. It has a Market Ward.

It may not give Immersion and sh*t, but do I look like I care? It's just about common sense. We have a Market Ward system, and we should better it if we have it, not just scrap it and substitute it with an Auction House. It would be stupid to scrap something if they don't work it on its extent, right?

Common sense was thrown completely out the window when this game was designed. You know what's stupid? Continuing to polish something that's fundamentally flawed instead of replacing it with something that works. I don't care if they make it convenient and continue to call it Market Wards as long as the process of having to travel to different wards and NPCs is COMPLETELY eliminated in favor of convenience. The immersion bit was in response to someone else so please try to read the thread before coming at me like that.

[Wolfie]

Common sense was thrown completely out the window when this game was designed. You know what's stupid? Continuing to polish something that's fundamentally flawed instead of replacing it with something that works. I don't care if they make it convenient and continue to call it Market Wards as long as the process of having to travel to different wards and NPCs is COMPLETELY eliminated in favor of convenience. The immersion bit was in response to someone else so please try to read the thread before coming at me like that.

Sometimes, I wonder if this game is ever going to get good. Almost everyone with a shred of intelligence left this game a long, long time ago. It's only me, you, and like five other people that can properly analyze the game's features and point out WHY MW is bad, why developing it further is bad, and what an objectively better alternative would be.

Everyone else that's still playing this game would *** if it came from SE.

[Eldaena]

Sometimes, I wonder if this game is ever going to get good. Almost everyone with a shred of intelligence left this game a long, long time ago. It's only me, you, and like five other people that can properly analyze the game's features and point out WHY MW is bad, why developing it further is bad, and what an objectively better alternative would be.

Everyone else that's still playing this game would eat a fresh turd on a plate if it came from SE.

That's very closed-minded of you. ^^;

[Demacia]

Sometimes, I wonder if this game is ever going to get good. Almost everyone with a shred of intelligence left this game a long, long time ago. It's only me, you, and like five other people that can properly analyze the game's features and point out WHY MW is bad, why developing it further is bad, and what an objectively better alternative would be.

Everyone else that's still playing this game would eat a fresh turd on a plate if it came from SE.

Man I left the game months ago I just post here to kill time and HOPEFULLY have a part in sending this game on the right track. Threads like these make me lose hope in that ever happening though. It's ridiculous how narrow minded certain people can be on these forums. As if they can't imagine any possibilities or alternatives different than what's currently in the game. The majority left and the minority that somehow enjoy XIV want nothing to truly change.

Am I generalizing? Maybe. But chances are the only people who will call me out on it are the same people who are against AH, against auto-attack, against redesigning maps, and against anything that has ever been done right in another game.

[Wolfie]

Man I left the game months ago I just post here to kill time and HOPEFULLY have a part in sending this game on the right track. Threads like these make me lose hope in that ever happening though. It's ridiculous how narrow minded certain people can be on these forums. As if they can't imagine any possibilities or alternatives different than what's currently in the game. The majority left and the minority that somehow enjoy XIV want nothing to truly change.

It's obvious that the devs have no idea what they're doing still. And unfortunately, almost everyone with a triple digit IQ abandoned ship after the first two or three months. I'm just a masochist and I like coming back here day in and day out.

[Eldaena]

Man I left the game months ago I just post here to kill time and HOPEFULLY have a part in sending this game on the right track. Threads like these make me lose hope in that ever happening though. It's ridiculous how narrow minded certain people can be on these forums. As if they can't imagine any possibilities or alternatives different than what's currently in the game. The majority left and the minority that somehow enjoy XIV want nothing to truly change.

If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the players that have posted here advocating a market wards system, have admitted that more needs to be done...aka they truly want change. I think it's narrow-minded to believe that an AH is just going to solve all these problems. The marketwards do have potential to be great, just like this game, but it needs work. And I think everyone agrees on that.

[Demacia]

If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the players that have posted here advocating a market wards system, have admitted that more needs to be done...aka they truly change. I think it's narrowminded that an AH is just going to solve all these problems. The marketwards do have potential to be great, just like this game, but it needs work. And I think everyone agrees on that.

Read the rests of my posts please. What it all boils down to is buying/selling from a window or having to run around to different retainers and wasting time. Are you in favor of the latter?

[Eldaena]

Read the rests of my posts please. What it all boils down to is buying/selling from a window or having to run around to different retainers and wasting time. Are you in favor of the latter?

For me, it takes less than a minute to search and run to a retainer. I don't think it's that time-consuming. However, I did say in my previous post that I could reason with the people that think the system is slow to have buying from the menu, at a tax. I think that's fair. But if they never implement something like that, I wouldn't cry over it. It's not that much time.

[Wolfie]

Read the rests of my posts please. What it all boils down to is buying/selling from a window or having to run around to different retainers and wasting time. Are you in favor of the latter?

I think I've explained this at least 40 times in the last month.

Rendering the retainers brought us these inconveniences and problems with MW:

Crashing
Zones and zoning
Penalties for selling in the wrong ward
Inconsistent organization with retainers and wards
Awkward and limited searches
Frustration

Here's a list of things that can't be done with a MW system that doesn't have rendered retainers:

[Eldaena]

I think I've explained this at least 40 times in the last month.

Rendering the retainers brought us these inconveniences and problems with MW:

Crashing
Zones and zoning
Penalties for selling in the wrong ward
Inconsistent organization with retainers and wards
Awkward and limited searches
Frustration

Here's a list of things that can't be done with a MW system that doesn't have rendered retainers:

When was the last time you had the wards crash on you? It has been months for me.
The zones are not that bad. I can see why people could get mildly irritated, but it's really not that long.
They wanted to encourage people to sell in the correct ward for the majority of items they want to sell. I agree they need to increase capacity, but you know the tax for selling in the wrong ward is barely a factor. It's miniscule and we need more gil sinks anyway.
I'm not sure about the searches. I think they need to do more in the way of buying and selling searches, but other than that what is the problem? At least we CAN search now, unlike previously.
And I'm sorry that you're frustrated.