Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
Already addressed this. There is an incentive to improve for people with the goal of beating new content. For the people that don't care about that there wouldn't be anything you could do to make them care. Which is perfectly fine. The game isn't all about that. Some people play to roleplay or just enjoy the social aspect or whatever. There is no logical reason to care if people want to challenge the most difficult content or improve their combat skills to do so. As has been posted multiple times in this thread by multiple people, stop worrying so much about what other people are doing ffs.

Goddamn, post limit for this forum is obnoxious, lol.
See, this is the reason why dungeon finders and party finders have a very high failure rate. If people want to just log on to socialize or role play, go for it. Just don't waste other people's times if you aren't willing to learn or improve because you don't care about other people trying to complete a dungeon. If everybody cared about only themselves, then there would be no written/video guides to teach people how certain mechanics work and how to play their class efficiently. If all you cared about was yourself then you wouldn't try to help the person bringing down your group.

In this game, you HAVE TO RELY on your teammates to be successful. You cannot ignore them and only worry about yourself. You HAVE to see what they are doing wrong and try to help them. But when people start to think "Fuck you, worry about yourself", then we can't accomplish our goal.

But there is no argument here obviously. You've already stated that for people who don't care, there's nothing to be done. Nothing will change your mind with that "worry about yourself" attitude and this game will continue to be a "hard mode" for everyone who refuses to worry about others enough to try and help.