Why give WMs abilities that we're asked NOT to use so much?

[Arcaloid]

I used to use Cure III right after Titan jump down, but I did pull threat once so I just stop using it anymore.
And for Medica II, if you only use it once for every full area damage, you shouldn't pulling threat at all so I'm guessing you did use it too often.

[Lyrinn]

SCH can't keep a PT (Full HP) up by themselves without a WHM not on Titan EX, although the SCH I played with was in allagan he also might have not been the most effective SCH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Xztw_R2Po

On-topic: Bad tank is bad. I'd have to actively overheal like a monster to pull aggro from any decent tank.

Like a boss.
But you guys cheated and dodged everything. Makes the fight easier. Dont you know youre supposed to get hit by the plumes every so often? lol

Not my problem. It's not my vid/group. o.o

[horaiyo]

It sounds like you just got a bad group. Once the tank has secured agro, regen is fine to use since you know they’ll be taking constant damage (using it on dps is arguable, unless they’ll also be taking consistent damage). The only way medica II should be pulling agro off the tank is if you popped it right at the start of the fight, if you spent the fight aggressively overhealing, or if the tank is bad (applies to regen as well). As far as the sch telling you to not use cure III for geocrush, a well-timed cure III (i.e. spell fires shortly after geocrush hits the group) is by far the best way of getting everyone topped off.

[Lucke]

When I tank, I ask WHM to not use Regen at all during the run to the boss. I sometimes forget it's on when I pull and the WHM gets immediate Aggro. Besides, trash is trash. Regen isn't necessary for those mobs. I like Regen during bosses though, that always helps.

[AlrikRouge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Xztw_R2Po

Like a boss.
But you guys cheated and dodged everything. Makes the fight easier. Dont you know youre supposed to get hit by the plumes every so often? lol

On topic, as PLD, I have yet to have aggro taken from me by a healer on any primal battles. Even if they use Medica II and Cure III on jumps and stomp sequences for Titan (as an example).

[Fynlar]

Personally, the only time I've had "enmity problems" as a WHM on Titan HM (or nearly anything else) was when I forgot I had Shroud of Saints.

I have had Titan fights where I've freely used Medica 2 (appropriately), along with Cure 3 (every Geocrush) without ever coming close to pulling hate. I've also had instances where I pulled hate after the very first Cure 3 and had to Shroud it off.

I don't know about more difficult fights, but if the healer is consistently ripping hate on Titan HM, that is absolutely a tank issue and not a healer issue. The tank needs to be doing some more enmity combos in that case.

On Titan don't spam Medica II. You can use Medica II once, but if you still need to heal the PT up after use Medica.

Medica 2 works better when the arena is still larger, because then it might still actually hit your entire party. I've found Medica 1 tends to miss people earlier in the fight prior to heart phase because of the larger arena + lower range.

[Axlle10]

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its not about not using your abilities, its about using them correctly and knowing when and where they are best used. as scholar i dont have the issues with pulling threat as fairy does its own threat gen, but i know that our whm in titan hm could only use medica II before nerf once without stealing aggro from tank instantly. you are doing a metric crapton of healing threat to 8 players so its gonna build threat quickly.

[Nalou]

I use regen and medica II all the times. They are pretty much the core of healing from my point of view (people may disagree but that's not the topic). I never had an enmity problem with these (except Garuda' sister, I had to adapt).

So, using regen and medica shouldn't be a problem. The tank might be doing something wrong, or you might be doing something wrong.
Change the tank, try another one, two other ones etc etc... if the enmity problem vanishes, then it was the tank doing something wrong.
If the enmity problem goes on, it might be you doing something wrong.


However, titan have another specific mechanic: the rest of your party may suck.
If you are healing dps after each plumes, after bombs, after all these damages your party should avoid and still take, then the problem is there: they should dodge, not rely on you to heal them for everything.

[zaviermhigo]

Once you've gone through the content, titan...coil...you start to realize your big cures are as needed as much as you think. Just saying. You can get through it with Cure/Physick and a few stoneskins/adlo's if you're smart. Save the "oh sh$%" cure, as I call them for "oh shi#% moments", start paying to attention to the fights your in, every healer is really bad on mp and such first time in, its understandable, we learn the fight. Fights like titan, are easy to memorize what he's going to do, so you learn to save mp, and big cures for moments when they are needed. If there is another healer in the party, and aoe dmg is being taken, you really only need each healer to aoe cure once. If you have one whm, one sch, the whm can prob aoe cure once, and the sch twice, without the sch pulling hate.

[Maku]

This really sounds like a L2P thread.