It's become a chore to even log on to the game

[NefGP]

This is exactly my point, they should scrap it in it's entirety. It makes no sense whatsoever killing Ifrit with Fire based spells.

Stop using ARR and 1.0 as examples, use earlier FF games and basically any RPG with elemental affinities and they handle it with much more finesse than this game

And to further that, no we didn't all just "spam thunder". Elemental bonus damage actually did considerably more damage on right mobs - even though stone was MND based for example, as a THM I could still cast it on Flies for more damage than my thunder 2 (lv 30 at the time soloing leves at Cedarwood). The wheel was a bit screwy though, as Fire was weak to Wind but beat Water (seriously wtf?) but at least it was there in classic RPG fashion.

As for "taking a break", I'm more than a little pissed having played since the original beta, dumped a good chunk of time and money into the game (not to mention having countless debates with people who'd written the game off not to abandon it, that YP really was going to save it) and was ecstatic to hear about the legacy bonuses (esp. the life time discount as I'd paid for XI for about 9 years running as hoping XIV would take its place as something new and better).

That's why I made that other thread about feeling betrayed - buyer's remorse, if you will. All that hope and good will only to end up with (pretty) mediocrity? Sorry but that's just unacceptable. SE is one of the few developers left out there known for taking risks (it's what Squaresoft was built on) and delivering masterpieces so to see XIV turn into yet another rehash of WoW-inspired MMOs that have flooded the market for the last decade is both depressing and insulting. It's bad enough Kitase went grossly over budget with Crystalis Novalis and Wada allowed garbage like All The Bravest to be published (and rushed Tanaka & Komoto to release the game too early and then using them as scapegoats) ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

I have nothing against YP personally - in fact I applaud the guy for his resolve and dedication. But the community needs to take a stand for quality control now, because the horrors of power creep are already bearing down on us and no one here wants to see this game wind up another flash in the pan like DoC, Conan, SWToR etc etc.

To the haters: If FFXI was such a bad game (and it had many faults), how is it then that it's been SE's most successful entry in the series, won multiple awards and kept a healthy 500k+ subs for over 7 years as a 2002 PS2 game? Or that every MMO since WoW has been a dismal failure, having to switch from a subscription based model to F2P within a year or 2. The sooner the industry realizes that WoW was a freak accident and not something that can be easily (if ever) replicated the better. Even Blizzard likely realized this when they halted Project Titan to completely restart it.

[prymortal]

The world design is bland, it feels like cardboard instead of a real living breathing world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0GfYMEfMLnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LQYoSyqyVbo
Would that be better?

the 1.0 layout was defintly better, worst mistake was making this game ps3 compatible in fact its a mistake alot of gaming companys keep making since the PS4 was announced & its a way better platform to work towards.

[Royze]

Thank you for making me aware of this game. (Bless)
Looks like what XI would have been with modern graphics and what XIV SHOULD have been.
If this game is ever released in English I'm def going to try it. Looks amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzfDt-ZjesA

[Mihael_Longclaw]

I canceled my sub, but I'm gonna stay here responding to every single post in my thread which is obviously meant to rile up players.

Would you rather me call you all idiots in my first post and leave the thread and let you guys beat eachother up about off topic discussions? I think it's common courtesy to hear everyone out, what they think of the game, and what changes they think it could strive for.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Okay, so if they remade blackmage and just had it do elemental damage without the umbral
That's what they're trying to avoid -_-

I think you missed the point where I said balance, there are ways to make it balanced many other games can do it, just because ARR can't is no excuse.


Give every class/job something that could help in this matter but is not needed, but if you want full viability you need diversity.

Give Bard Voice of the (Wind, Fire, Earth, Lightning, Water, Ice) they increase elemental defense by 20%, but reduce the opposing defense by 25%
This could add for some interesting fights with enemies of all elements and the Bard quickly shooting these off

Expand on Monks fist of attacks

Give Summoner enfeeblements that boost your weapon with elemental affinities, or multiply the natural elemental abilities of your weapon (or save this for Red Mage, even better) and let the Egis (or scrap them for summons) be more elemtally tuned

Black Mage give a full roster of elemental attacks, as well as non elemental

Add a skill or ability for Dragoons, to put things on the tip of their spear, like light it on fire then attacks like Dragonfire Dive have 1.5x the fire damage,



If they added elemental gear sets as well it could open up alot of things, such as changing gearsets mid-dungeon with no penalties, this could eventually open up changing class/job mid dungeon too, opening up repairs and gathering nodes in dungeon, but then as soon as you get to the boss gate, you must have (1 Tank/1 Healer/2 DDs) for DF, and any party you want in premades.

Have content doable with only unaspected gearsets, but going full bore with that elemental being the most optimal approach.

[Fyce]

It's not your game either, to make changes that many people can enjoy without fringing on other peoples enjoyment is key for this game.
Stop being a hypocrite

You should learn what "hypocrite" means before using it.
Also, the difference between you and me, is that I don't expect the game to change based on my needs.
You, on the other hand, don't care about the others at all. The quote I used previously was all about you talking about your own needs and expectations, and how FF XIV should be for you.

If you dislike Disney Land, will you send them an angry letter saying that you're entitled to change their park in order for you to enjoy it? Well, I guess you can do it, but it doesn't mean that you are the voice of the truth. You're just expressing your opinion. And your opinion worth as much as any opinion in this world.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

You should learn what "hypocrite" means before using it.
Also, the difference between you and me, is that I don't expect the game to change based on my needs.
You, on the other hand, don't care about the others at all. The quote I used previously was all about you talking about your own needs and expectations, and how FF XIV should be for you.

If you dislike Disney Land, will you send them an angry letter saying that you're entitled to change their park in order for you to enjoy it? Well, I guess you can do it, but it doesn't mean that you are the voice of the truth. You're just expressing your opinion. And your opinion worth as much as any opinion in this world.

Did I say it any other way? If you enjoy shallow games such as this with no depth, I applaud you, to me it's not even palattable, that isn't to say alot of the things in this game don't interest me, they do, if they didn't I'd have my leave and not make such posts.

I'm not making angry remarks at all, or asking for to be like FFXIV 1.0 or even FF11, I haven't played either so I can't say.
What I am asking, are for things you'd EXPECT from a Final Fantasy game

[Fyce]

Did I say it any other way? If you enjoy shallow games such as this with no depth, I applaud you, to me it's not even palattable, that isn't to say alot of the things in this gam,e don't interest me.

Yes, I enjoy FF XIV: ARR right now. No, I don't like every aspect of it, but it's fine.
And what? Are you mad? Jealous? You can't enjoy it to the point where you canceled your sub and left the game while posting on the forums how blend this game is to you. So you are attacking me on the basis that I can like this game, and you can't. Congratz, you discovered human opinions and tastes.

After reading all your posts here, you basically want FF XIV: A ream re-reborn. Quit being so naive, this won't happen until your voice become a part of the majority. Currently, you are in the minority.
If this game feels so tasteless to you in its core design, the chances that you will never be satisfied are really, really high.

So, instead of wasting you time trying to enforce a major shift to this game, you probably should try to find something that suit your taste in the first place.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Dude, calm down. I haven't attacked you personally, stop getting so defensive, I'm saying if you enjoy the game, that is a good thing.
I'm saying, I, personally, and not just my self, many others find some glaring flaws in an otherwise good game. The only major change I'd like to see is to combat, just make it more dynamic and less set-rotations, elemental affinities would be grand. I'm not asking for the game to be torn apart, alot of the things can still grow.

If you read all my posts, you'd know that the only change I've talked about, is to combat which I and many others think is bland.
There are ways to balance it, "subtle depth" which this game does not have.

[TheUltimate3]

If a random nobody could step in, I would just say, while cool, an elemental wheel would be...bad in a game designed like this, where progress and the like moves upward and not horizontally.

Basically, using the examples you just used, if Bards had a song that upped the resistance of elements, I highly doubt they would allow it to stack, therefore you will only need one Bard.

Then you'll probably end up in a stupid situation where a cutting edge raid party will only employ the necessary number of tanks (be it 1 or 2), 1 healer (good luck guy), maybe 1 bard (for the resistance), then stack the black mages (or whatever else gets a nice damage advantage). They'd be laughed at and mocked until the time it works, then suddenly it may be the optimal method of doing things.

Basically, in a game XIV is designed for, something like an elemental wheel or things like it could not work.