SE sort out your Updater ><

[Cairdeas]

To be honest my main concern is for Patch 1.18 as Yoshi stated in his letter:


That is what I am most worried about, 300 odd MB can take long enough 1.18 could well end up being 1GB+ and then let not forget how they manage there updates so 1.18a, 1.18b and so on will require us to re-download 1.18 in full each time even if the actual update is only a few MB worth of tweeks.

I really how they have some sort of fix for the patcher before then otherwise it 1.18 could be a nightmare with the patcher in it's current state.

I still have not seen anyone prove 100% that the current patch system forces you to download all the current patch data at once every patch cycle.

For all we know the file that house major things like the Market Wards and Combat have to be redownloaded each time a minor edit is made to them because of encryption.

[Cutriss]

I still have not seen anyone prove 100% that the current patch system forces you to download all the current patch data at once every patch cycle.

It's not the patch system. It's just misuse of the patch system. Previously they were using it correctly but now they're providing redundant data. And yes, people have done diffs on the files produced in the patch to show that of the 300+ MB downloaded, only a small amount has changed, and only a few of the files have changed in the entire package.

It would be like they're torrenting a collection of music, and they later update one of the included albums to provide album art, but rather than include only those files in the new .torrent file, they're marking all the other songs, and the FFXIV client (for obvious reasons) doesn't let us do a partial download.

This really seems like just a casual mistake on their part, but once again, it is very difficult to communicate this fact to them.

[AlexiaKidd]

I still have not seen anyone prove 100% that the current patch system forces you to download all the current patch data at once every patch cycle.

For all we know the file that house major things like the Market Wards and Combat have to be redownloaded each time a minor edit is made to them because of encryption.

Actually Viion has proved that each update in 1.17, 1.17a, 1.17b, 1.17c all contained exactly the same data + a little bit extra in this thread here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ighlight=patch

Unless you have something to prove otherwise that we aren't re-downloading the same data over and over again then I will have to go with Viion on this one.

[Cairdeas]

Actually Viion has proved that each update in 1.17, 1.17a, 1.17b, 1.17c all contained exactly the same data + a little bit extra in this thread here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ighlight=patch

Unless you have something to prove otherwise that we aren't re-downloading the same data over and over again then I will have to go with Viion on this one.

Again.

If File X for the Market Ward System is sized 75MB exactly.
SE Changes the code around but after compression and encryption the core file is still 75MB
You still are going to have to download it again.

Thats how it worked in FFXI as well.

[AlexiaKidd]

Again.

If File X for the Market Ward System is sized 75MB exactly.
SE Changes the code around but after compression and encryption the core file is still 75MB
You still are going to have to download it again.

Thats how it worked in FFXI as well.

Only 1.17, 1.17a, 1.17b and 1.17c all made different changes to other parts of the game so this doesn't really support your theory and it's not just the 1.17 patches, 1.16 and 1.15 were exactly the same too.

[Cutriss]

Again.

If File X for the Market Ward System is sized 75MB exactly.
SE Changes the code around but after compression and encryption the core file is still 75MB
You still are going to have to download it again.

Thats how it worked in FFXI as well.

Here's the easiest way to figure it out on your own!

Open up your FFXIV folder. If you're in XP, open the Search pane, otherwise, click into the search bar. Search for all files modified on 6/15/2011. In the results, select everything that's not a folder, then right-click and hit Properties.

Total filesize: 27.6 MB.