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  1. #11
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    I would rather they make it so that amassing large amounts of gil into something very easy and quickly done through normal means if they ever get the server space they need for player housing to flourish. Like increasing gil rewards by 3-5 times, and increasing the sale price of Allegan coins by the same multiplier. It should make it so that players would never feel incentivised to use RMT services, in theory. It would probably be even worse for RMT if housing prices for mid-sized homes were reduced to 800k-1m in price in that scenario...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPNZ View Post
    I would rather they make it so that amassing large amounts of gil into something very easy and quickly done through normal means if they ever get the server space they need for player housing to flourish. Like increasing gil rewards by 3-5 times, and increasing the sale price of Allegan coins by the same multiplier. It should make it so that players would never feel incentivised to use RMT services, in theory. It would probably be even worse for RMT if housing prices for mid-sized homes were reduced to 800k-1m in price in that scenario...
    What you'll get is massive inflation and people will still continue to buy gil anyway.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    What you'll get is massive inflation and people will still continue to buy gil anyway.
    Well, if you can't stop something entirely, then it's best to curb it in some way. The "why bother trying" attitude of your last statement helps no one.

    NPC vender prices and gathering success rates for certain items can be set and reset since it's a game, and an increase in price for certain items on the market board would be pretty welcomed from what I've read from comments since the 2.1 changes.
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    “If I had an hour to solve a problem I'd spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem and 5 minutes thinking about solutions.” - Albert Einstein

    Where do RMT come from? Are they hacking acounts? Are they using trial accounts? How do you keep them from getting in in the first place?
    How do they gather gil? How do you make that less rewarding/successful?
    How do they transfer gil?
    Who buys gil? Why? How do you disincentivize that?
    How will any solution impact the desirable population?
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  5. #15
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    The way EO really defeats RMT is by doing it themselves with PLEX.

    As way way back when I started EO in 2005 I did buy ISK for in game. Then after returning from one of the many breaks from the game I took they implemented PLEX and I never was bothered to look farther since it is an official way to convert IRL Resources ie Money into in game Resources to save Time and actually run content that I was interested in without having to farm for 20 hours to buy one mid tier ship early on.

    At the time it takes to do something legitimately increases the likely hood that someone who values their IRL Time more than the Cost of the legit or illegit method to do the same in IRL money the greater the likelihood of them just buying it.

    Put another way, using ISK as the example right now in EO, I can run LVL4 missions and make about 10-20M an hour without breaking a sweat or trying really hard, but need 250M for ship build out so need to farm for 20ish hours. Or for $15 buy 1 PLEX and convert it for 500M when I make about $25 an hour IRL which is more cost effective and time effective if the 20ish hours of farming is not fun.
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    Last edited by Galen_Malchome; 02-14-2014 at 03:11 AM.

  6. #16
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    The only way to beat RTM is to join them by releasing your own legitimate way that is 100% official and approved.
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    I said pretty much the same thing in another thread.

    With the PLEX system, you can convert game-time into in-game currency. Since someone has to buy the time, then CCP got their cut.

    The benefit to this is the demand for illicit RMT is cut to nil.
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    Last edited by Sparky; 02-14-2014 at 03:47 AM.

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    Don't these people have to buy the game to do their free trial? :\ where are these people getting money.....oh wait there rmt whoever is buying from them should stop or hope they get the banwagon as well.
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    I agree the only way to really thwart RMT is by not buying from them, but this message has been told and ignored for years. Somehow there are always going to be people desperate enough to make the whole business worthwhile to them.

    It's like all those scam emails. Send ten thousand emails, get 50 responses. But those 50 responses are profitable enough to make them keep trying.
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    There is no RMT and botting.....

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