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  1. #41
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    You loose 1 defensive cd, you have no flare in 30 and 40 caps, the difference in int/vit in 30 and 40 not even noticable, you gain 3 defensive cds. Even in 50 caps, Convalescence would proove useful, the stats are the same on gear for thm as well as blm, it's the same gear, jobs don't add any passives. so what you'll be giving up is ancient magics which I dont use often enough to justify them and manawall. PvP gear has no accuracy stat. Featherfoot was useful as hell against gear with accuracy.
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    Last edited by Spyrit; 02-01-2014 at 10:44 PM.

  2. #42
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    Flare is the single wild card BLMs have. Mana Ward is the best Enkindle/Fester deterrent, Mana wall is a 2nd Surecast and premeditated stun evasion. Featherfoot, Keen Edge are useless without facing your enemy. Convelescence requires you to be healed. I don't see why THM is capable of outclassing BLM. And to really make use of Keen Edge you'd need to use shield combo, which no PvP options are available.
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  3. 02-02-2014 02:24 AM
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  4. #43
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    Yea stack spell speed - as much as you can
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  5. #44
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    Seripha Starbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryJetman View Post
    Yea stack spell speed - as much as you can
    instead of crit / determ?
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  6. #45
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    Chachasamu Cocosamu
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryJetman View Post
    Nenin is kinda right - if you get one of the bad solo q healers you will die most likely thats true; however the main problem is mages using their defensive cds at the randomest times, not eating enkindle with manaward, walling before they even engage some1 and stuff like that

    Mage is great at avoiding dmg in many ways - if you are facetanking blame yourself 1st and foremost, not the team

    Most importantly - i would strongly advise against speccing / stacking VIT; your dmg will be terrible and smart teams will just straight up ignore you

    An example of that is Vexx Licious if any1 has seen that mage - he has like 5800 hp, does no dmg whatsoever; every time we play vs him we just ignore him (cc chain) and kill him last. He ends up with like 2300 dmg when every1 else did 10k

    Its like saying that mage in wow should stack stamina since a lot of teams try to pressure / kill the mage as a priority
    A little bit of Vit helps a lot, but you also don't need to put your entire build into vit either. I use 3/4 warwolf accessories with vitality to get my HP to 4200, and still have plenty enough damage to instant kill people with raging>phantom dart>flare>proc>swiftcast>flare
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  7. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Flare is the single wild card BLMs have. Mana Ward is the best Enkindle/Fester deterrent, Mana wall is a 2nd Surecast and premeditated stun evasion. Featherfoot, Keen Edge are useless without facing your enemy. Convelescence requires you to be healed. I don't see why THM is capable of outclassing BLM. And to really make use of Keen Edge you'd need to use shield combo, which no PvP options are available.
    You need to read what I said, flare is a lvl 50 spell therefore not available at lvl 30 and level 40 cap. Manaward comes with THM too, keep in mind this is for 30 and 40 cap, you keep missing that point. Healers heal you, convalescence would be go for the initial dogpile attempt at which time heals are spamming heals on you to keep you alive. Keen edge? no Keen flurry, featherfoot which works really well, better than the two hits manawall protect you from. Flare isn't much of a wild card, outside the occasional tee hee effect (i'd rather use swiftcast for things like saving my own hide or the healer), scathe is my primary damage ability while moving
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    Last edited by Spyrit; 02-02-2014 at 07:36 AM.

  8. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seripha_Starbane View Post
    instead of crit / determ?
    You have that on the gear itself, meld only Spell Speed and resist materia

    If we get reforging at some point - i would reforge stuff into spell speed as well
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  9. #48
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    I was leaning towards spell speed myself.
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  10. #49
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    Currently Spell Speed cap and casting Flares at 3.59s with food. We are talking competitive here, so 40s range is out of the question. Heck people have a hard time trying to cancel your 2.22s cast alone and with Equanimity 10s you can totally destroy those pesky BRDs who wont stop poking you in the face. If scathe is your only damage there is something wrong. Cause while melee are chasing you you should have done enough Blizzard 2 and Blizzard 1 to get UI3 to straight swap into AF3 to start a sudden burst. Give me 10 seconds of cast and I will always push at least 10-12k DMG during that timeframe. There was even this time when I did 20k due to silly Thundercloud and Firestarter procs.

    Also in PvP user Thunder 1 multi dot to cause Thunder 3 thunderclouds.
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  11. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Currently Spell Speed cap and casting Flares at 3.59s with food. We are talking competitive here, so 40s range is out of the question. Heck people have a hard time trying to cancel your 2.22s cast alone and with Equanimity 10s you can totally destroy those pesky BRDs who wont stop poking you in the face. If scathe is your only damage there is something wrong. Cause while melee are chasing you you should have done enough Blizzard 2 and Blizzard 1 to get UI3 to straight swap into AF3 to start a sudden burst. Give me 10 seconds of cast and I will always push at least 10-12k DMG during that timeframe. There was even this time when I did 20k due to silly Thundercloud and Firestarter procs.

    Also in PvP user Thunder 1 multi dot to cause Thunder 3 thunderclouds.
    I prefer kill counts, to high damage numbers, it is pvp after all. If your're doing a lot of damage with no kill counts, the healer is beating you. From the video alone I see more time being spent LOSed then damage dealing. High damage numbers is for dungeons, kill counts are for pvp.
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    Last edited by Spyrit; 02-03-2014 at 09:57 PM.

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