Job lotting for dungeons

[Mykll]

I very strongly disagree with this. It's a horrible idea. What that does is make it significantly more difficult for the person who is actually on their job. It's one thing to roll against the other healer, or other tank whatever.

You want to roll on healer gear or tank gear etc. Play the class.

How does it make it more difficult for the person who is actually on their job? Either the loot rules were stated in advanced in Party Finder, and they were ok with those rules joining, or in Duty Finder, they can Need the item and those people not on that job will always lose out. They can't need. They can only greed. And if they can only greed, in Duty Finder, without a Party Finder loot rules laid out in advanced, then don't be surprised if anyone else greeds or needs the item. Seems simple and not really hard on anyone.


So, you only roll Need if your current class can use it? If your current class cannot use it but another one will you NEVER greed it?

TL;DR I'm done gearing my main. Let me take gear from yours for my alts.

They can't. For your alts, they can only greed. The other people on their main? They can need. The people that greed will never win, unless the people that need only greed or pass.

[WhaleBiologist]

They can't. For your alts, they can only greed. The other people on their main? They can need. The people that greed will never win, unless the people that need only greed or pass.

We have that system. Unless I am misunderstanding you and you want ANOTHER option which is between greed and need, so that people playing the class get first dibs, then people that lotted for it, then people who greed. This would only be a slight improvement over the current system though, because for one, it would only be used if you see gear drop that no other main job wanted, and it would also be open for lotting for the other 5 potential players. It makes the whole system much more convoluted when you have the greed option there (poorly named in this instance) which could ideally be used only by people who have a class at the appropriate level to use the gear dropped. You also already have a third option at a lower priority, which is letting the item time out. I consistently see people who STILL don't understand how looting works and end up with a monk belt from CT because they never explicitly passed on the item.

[Mykll]

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I misunderstood you then. No, I do not want another system. I think the way it is now works fine. People can't take gear for alts if a main is around that wants it.

this game could use loot control pretty badly. loot master or have it set to everyone greed.

I can see loot master being abused. Everything to greed and no longer have a Need roll is bad. If I am a tank or healer, I would only want to be rolling against the other tank or healer, not against ALL 7 other members of the Full Party.