If you didn't start PvP before, then don't start ever?

[omniwaink]

Typically I care less about the elitist attitude in MMOs, cause I normally find people bad enough to justify it (I was in an Ifrit Extreme the other day where a Summoner only used Ruin the entire nail phase...). But I've definitely seen a lot of unnecessary doucheness from PVPers in Primal, mostly coming from R30s when they lose a match.

You know, like telling an ilvl 90 Warrior who just said it's his first match never to queue again.

That being said, I don't feel sorry for people that queue for PVP in Darklight, or with ilvl 55 GC weapons. There is absolutely zero excuse for players to not have ilvl 90 myth gear or at minimum CT gear on a class, even if you've never touched Coil or a Primal in your FFXIV career.

There are also people in the queue that don't even have all their cross-class abilities. I've seen healers without Swiftcast and Scholars without Stoneskin. That is completely unacceptable, and you are costing other players matches.

Yeah, everyone needs to start somewhere, but if you can't do the bare minimum of mind-numbingly casual stuff like capping Myth every week and leveling a Thaumaturge to 26, then do everyone a favor and don't start PVP.

[Quackley]

There is absolutely zero excuse for players to not have ilvl 90 myth gear or at minimum CT gear on a class, even if you've never touched Coil or a Primal in your FFXIV career.

How dare you queue for completely unrated PvP without going through many weeks of gated end-game content.
HOW DARE YOU.

is this real

gonna just emphasize the part where people can't really get through any of that faster, and telling them to not participate for multiple weeks is hilarious

they go down to 30/40, have no abilities, and then people rage at them for that too.
that, and syncing yourself down is terrible and the differences in power spikes for classes is awful.

[omniwaink]

gonna just emphasize the part where people can't really get through any of that faster, and telling them to not participate for multiple weeks is hilarious

Going into a PVP queue against rank 30s and rank 20+ in Darklight and a GC weapon is the same as going against Twintania in Darklight and a GC weapon. If you think you deserve to be a liability to your group just because you dinged 50, you're an idiot. I've seen people in the queue that have ilvl 39 accessories and AF1, and its the exact case I'm talking about where you deserve to get flamed. Like 50 PVP, Coil doesn't have a specified requirement either, but no one is going to want to group with you if you haven't invested any time in your character.

I swear, the self-entitlement of people playing MMOs is unreal. Obviously one person's desire to PVP on an unfinished character outweighs the other three's desire to have a PVP match where they actually have a chance of winning. Get real. Deal with the longer 30 and 40 queue and work on winning instead of boning the 50 queue just so you can get faster marks.