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  1. #21
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    I'm only guessing it might be because there trying to play Summoner as a pet class not a dot class. That's just a guess. Summoner should of been fixed in the beta but it was never in the beta for some stupid reason.
    It's both, and we have synergy with our pets. Sure ifrit is useless but Titan makes us the best solo class and Garuda pushes our average dps total to the top of the boards. More of our damage coming from the pet would make the class more boring to play. And if we were completely focused on the pet like in XI then micromanaging during bosses would be the worst since it would be much more important to keep both the pet and yourself alive.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I admit I didn't use many of the special classes in the class based Final Fantasy. What was the benefit of having a Red Mage?
    Red Mages were a jack-of-all-trades class. They could use both Black and White magic, just not as high-leveled or as well as Black or White Mages, and could use a sword and shield. Later games gave them more enchanting and enfeebling skills to differentiate themselves.
    I just drew parallels between Red Mages affinity to enfeebling and our Summoner's DoTs...(because I not-so-secretly want them to overhaul Summoner to be more focused on the Summons/Pets. Plus I'm always giddy at the prospect of a new class/job). >A>()
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  3. #23
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    And if we were completely focused on the pet like in XI then micromanaging during bosses would be the worst since it would be much more important to keep both the pet and yourself alive.
    It's not so much that we want Summoner to play like XI's Summoner, it's just that we feel like the focus is really skewed towards DoTs then the actual pets.
    While I will agree that Titan is great, Garuda is the only summons that you will actually command to do something and that's just Place and Contagion, which for a pet-based class, is kind of lackluster. Plus the lack of variety or versatility in their moves, being only stuck with four moves each, is kind of a letdown, especially considering that Titan and Garuda are both Carbuncle-reskins with a +10 attack potency on all their moves.
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    Alistair Adfectus
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I LOVE Summoner. It's a really fun class to play. Even with all my points in mind as a SCH main, I usually stay 2nd place in DPS. Love the mobility, and backup raises.
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    Daii Mercury
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    Midgardsormr
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    I disagree with anyone that says we aren't pet focused. We are so busybody, when played well, that I fail to remember a time thinking that we weren't.
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    Lodestone: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1729819/
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    While translation is a large part of our job, what is not known by many is that the EN localization team plays a large role in the creation of a lot of in-game terminology and lore which is then localized back into Japanese (with liberties often taken by the Japanese team so that the text might appear more appealing to their target Japanese audience).

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    Warlyx Arada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I admit I didn't use many of the special classes in the class based Final Fantasy. What was the benefit of having a Red Mage?
    RDM has A+ on enfeebling magic (debuffs) , so was easier for them to stick paralyze(Chance to paralyze melee, spell attacks ) , slow (-attack speed) , dia (-def and dot), blind (-%hit chance),gravity (snare evasion down) , sleep (CC), poison (dot), bind (root), sleep, sleepga (aoe)

    rdm has fast cast trait (faster cast times and recast) on the game, convert (exchange currentHPtoMP > infinite MP) , has access to refresh (mp regen for every1!), haste , cure 1-4 , phalanx (Def buff) , and nukes up to III (max was IV), haste, stoneskin, max protect and shell, raise (I max was III)

    subbing whm gave rdm , dispels for every other debuff but stone (only whm could dispel stone), divine seal (next heal boosted)

    Rdm were awesome
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    I disagree with anyone that says we aren't pet focused. We are so busybody, when played well, that I fail to remember a time thinking that we weren't.
    ...Other then placing and Contagion, maybe the occasional Enkindle, what are you doing with your Egi? >A>()
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  8. #28
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    So garuda only has 2 abilities? Do tell. Also, placing can be a full time job depending on situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    While translation is a large part of our job, what is not known by many is that the EN localization team plays a large role in the creation of a lot of in-game terminology and lore which is then localized back into Japanese (with liberties often taken by the Japanese team so that the text might appear more appealing to their target Japanese audience).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    So garuda only has 2 abilities? Do tell. Also, placing can be a full time job depending on situation.
    Does Garuda have only two abilites? No.
    Do we ever use more then Contagion? Usually not.
    Do we ever use Obey on anything other the Garuda? Probably not.
    Plus, most SMNs usually place there Garuda where ever it will take the least amount of damage and only re-move it when they need to, so then they can focus on DPSing. That, or they just have them on Obey+Heel, so Garuda is trailing behind them.
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  10. #30
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    Jordan Lewis
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    So garuda only has 2 abilities? Do tell. Also, placing can be a full time job depending on situation.
    Garuda should only be ever using 2 of those abilities. Maybe knockback in the 2nd boss of WP if he targets you and you don't want to stop ruin'ing.
    And placing literally almost never matters, except a couple of fights in CT which really only require you to move once at most. Most of the time anyways your pet will be getting hit with medica 2 or succor so any damage he does take from not moving is moot.
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