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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Pft. Achievements, yeah sure... Truth is, you just want to stay an "Elitist" as much as possible. LOL!

    Welp, no wonder, this is the only MMO I've seen that's recording a "world first / server first" on everything.
    You do realize you are playing a social game, and status is part of that, right? They aren't elitist. They are a group of people with a passion for tackling hard content, and that requires them to organize into groups and find ways to recognize one another. The gear thus becomes a symbol of status within their group. They don't hate or look down on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    You do realize you are playing a social game, and status is part of that, right? They aren't elitist. They are a group of people with a passion for tackling hard content, and that requires them to organize into groups and find ways to recognize one another. The gear thus becomes a symbol of status within their group. They don't hate or look down on you.
    The fact that they want something in return for their pre-nerf kills, isn't that being an elitist already? new players are still coming into this game, it just happened that YOU or these group of people you are referring to came in first.

    Nobody deserves a special treatment, when everyone is paying the same amount of sub-fee. No one, I repeat, no one forced you to tackle down everything before it gets nerf. This was announced way long ago, it was expected by everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    The fact that they want something in return for their pre-nerf kills, isn't that being an elitist already? new players are still coming into this game, it just happened that YOU or these group of people you are referring to came in first.

    Nobody deserves a special treatment, when everyone is paying the same amount of sub-fee. No one, I repeat, no one forced you to tackle down everything before it gets nerf. This was announced way long ago, it was expected by everyone.
    Rewarding players more for completing the same task on a higher difficulty is NOT special treatment! That is how games with different levels of difficulty work. They took on a greater challenge for what they got. What is the point of taking something on a higher difficulty if the reward is the same? No intelligently made game does this. On top of which the devs have taken that chance away from you.

    Also, you do have access to the content. Access does not imply that you should be able to complete the encounter without difficulty. Yes, there should be an easier version so people with less time can see the content, but not at the cost of an entire difficulty level of play that we already payed for. Nor should the players on easy mode be rewarded the same thing as those who did it hard mode. at least give the hard mode a version of the gear that looks different.And, repeating my last statement, they have forever STRIPPED YOU of access to the content you payed for by replacing the encounter with a watered down version. You no longer have access to the original fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Ffxi, Eve online, Maple Story, Star Wars Galaxies, etc...
    I'm not saying they're better in their entirety, as mmos have improved on a lot of mechanics, but they did present alternative forms of progression to WoW. Also, I think Ultima Online, the first mmo, didn't do what WoWdid either.
    Maple Story lol, thats a game for 12 year olds

    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    You do realize you are playing a social game, and status is part of that, right? They aren't elitist. They are a group of people with a passion for tackling hard content, and that requires them to organize into groups and find ways to recognize one another. The gear thus becomes a symbol of status within their group. They don't hate or look down on you.
    Simple, do T6-9 and get the new symbol of status, you can't expect Allagan weapons to be the ultimate symbol of status for all eternity do you?

    I have this nagging feeling that players who whine about T1-5 in 2.2 are actually players afraid of the new tougher content in 2.2 and as a result had little confidence that they will be able to tackle them early (before the content gets on farm mode) thus desperately holds on to their current achievements and wishes that others can't catch up to them so that they could continue to be part of a pseudo "elite club"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Simple, do T6-9 and get the new symbol of status, you can't expect Allagan weapons to be the ultimate symbol of status for all eternity do you?

    I have this nagging feeling that players who whine about T1-5 in 2.2 are actually players afraid of the new tougher content in 2.2 and as a result had little confidence that they will be able to tackle them early (before the content gets on farm mode) thus desperately holds on to their current achievements and wishes that others can't catch up to them so that they could continue to be part of a pseudo "elite club"
    Exactly how i feel about this. Those same elite players that want the "status" can simply do the same thing for T6-9
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