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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Because when 2.2 is out 6-9 will be the new top tier raid, with ilvl 110 or 120 whatever they decide. Coil 1-5 becomes the catch up raid thus no lockout. Basically ilvl 90 is the new ilvl 70 Darklight as far as 2.2 is concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Because when 2.2 is out 6-9 will be the new top tier raid, with ilvl 110 or 120 whatever they decide. Coil 1-5 becomes the catch up raid thus no lockout. Basically ilvl 90 is the new ilvl 70 Darklight as far as 2.2 is concerned.
    ^this

    T6-9 most likely will require a lot of ilvl 90 gear on your character before you are deemed ready to even attempt T6-9. T6-9 will be the new T1-5 in 2.2 and ilvl 90 gears is the new endgame starter gear compare to now with ilvl 70 gear being the starter endgame gear.

    Just about enough ilvl 90 gear to hit the ilvl 85 range may be required which will require grinding for ilvl 90 gear in T1-5, myth if you want to speed the process, and a lot of luck on loot drops and rolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Because when 2.2 is out 6-9 will be the new top tier raid, with ilvl 110 or 120 whatever they decide. Coil 1-5 becomes the catch up raid thus no lockout. Basically ilvl 90 is the new ilvl 70 Darklight as far as 2.2 is concerned.
    Why do you say it like its a normal thing? This is honestly a d**k move by SE to invalidate the last 4 months of effort a lot of people were patient enough to withstand. This is a disgrace... It bothers me how insensitive you are to the OP's qualms becsuse its a perty big deal...
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    Last edited by Devilray; 01-26-2014 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Why do you say it like its a normal thing? This is honestly a d**k move by SE to invalidate the last 4 months of effort a lot of people were patient enough to withstand. This is a disgrace...
    I have played many other MMOs that use the same system so I am use to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I have played many other MMOs that use the same system so I am use to it.
    Many WoW clones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Why do you say it like its a normal thing? This is honestly a d**k move by SE to invalidate the last 4 months of effort a lot of people were patient enough to withstand. This is a disgrace...
    Not really its a carrot and stick move, as long as you keep playing they are getting paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Why do you say it like its a normal thing? This is honestly a d**k move by SE to invalidate the last 4 months of effort a lot of people were patient enough to withstand. This is a disgrace... It bothers me how insensitive you are to the OP's qualms becsuse its a perty big deal...
    At least it's only a few months instead of 7 or so years like with XI.
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    Gio Nazzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Why do you say it like its a normal thing? This is honestly a d**k move by SE to invalidate the last 4 months of effort a lot of people were patient enough to withstand. This is a disgrace... It bothers me how insensitive you are to the OP's qualms becsuse its a perty big deal...
    Because casuals don't understand/don't care.

    They just want their welfare items so they can feel powerful like all the good players for a few moments, then move on to the next tier of content, fail, and immediately revert back to crying to SE that the content is too hard/unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazzo View Post
    Because casuals don't understand/don't care.

    They just want their welfare items so they can feel powerful like all the good players for a few moments, then move on to the next tier of content, fail, and immediately revert back to crying to SE that the content is too hard/unfair.
    I will give you a free (FREE OMG NO MONEY DOWN) education on MMO gearing.

    Best in Slot gear is the best for the current content. Once new content comes out Best in Slot (BiS) will be replaced by new BiS. When this happens, the old gear is now worthless for the majority of the "Best" players. Now, the averge gamer aspires to get the old BiS while slowly working on the new.

    If this cycle repeats a few times WITHOUT the devs making the old BiS easier to acquire....you end up in a state where the new or average gamer falls behind. Someone who recently started or hasn't seriously played for a while would need to gear through 2 or 3 or 4 sets of gear to get back to the current gear.

    If new content "Coil 20" requires gear from 15/19 to tackle it, and 15 requires gear from 6/10 to have a shot at it....and you cant get gear from 15 since your still in 1/5 gear and no one is doing the "old" 6/10...well I would hope you can see the problem.

    By making the tier exactly one step behind new content farmable and easy to aquire, everyone new and old subscribers, can participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    I will give you a free (FREE OMG NO MONEY DOWN) education on MMO gearing.

    Best in Slot gear is the best for the current content. Once new content comes out Best in Slot (BiS) will be replaced by new BiS. When this happens, the old gear is now worthless for the majority of the "Best" players. Now, the averge gamer aspires to get the old BiS while slowly working on the new.

    If this cycle repeats a few times WITHOUT the devs making the old BiS easier to acquire....you end up in a state where the new or average gamer falls behind. Someone who recently started or hasn't seriously played for a while would need to gear through 2 or 3 or 4 sets of gear to get back to the current gear.

    If new content "Coil 20" requires gear from 15/19 to tackle it, and 15 requires gear from 6/10 to have a shot at it....and you cant get gear from 15 since your still in 1/5 gear and no one is doing the "old" 6/10...well I would hope you can see the problem.

    By making the tier exactly one step behind new content farmable and easy to aquire, everyone new and old subscribers, can participate.
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