Save the Game Thread

[Gilthas]

Ideas how to save the game ?

Mine is remove caps on end game . If I could farm myth tomes for my alts I might have something to actually keep me busy .

The ideas have to be super easy to implement . Not adding content that would take weeks to design.

If there weren't any caps in the game, you'd probably be fully geared on all your classes and complaining about that.

The only ways for SE to prevent players from getting capped quickly is:

- Keep adding new content faster than their playerbase can burn through it (pretty much unfeasible).
- Caps on content (which you don't like).
- Make gear take a very long time to get (which a lot of people don't like anyway).

[Beetle]

What ....... reward people for not playing with the community, to build the community ?

He means removing use of duty finder. Causes so many trolls and haters to attack players from other servers.

[Varhaatus]

He means removing use of duty finder. Causes so many trolls and haters to attack players from other servers.

I can completely see that point, I am yet to meet anyone who is trolling "abandon" or the "bad attituders"

Maybe im lucky but then again I think I have about 15 days ingame.

But .... Why is it so bad here ? many games i have played have a random dungeon option and I have never experienced anything like I read about this games version of it.

[Miitan]

OH NOES! FFXIV IS DIEING!

[Xatsh]

What ....... reward people for not playing with the community, to build the community ?

Duty finder is a random assortment of people from across many worlds.

People in this become your tool for progression. It breads trolls and people who are only thinking of themselves.

If I was to go into a party finder and cause massive wipes in Crystal tower. If I was to agree to greed only and then need something. What would happen?

Nothing because I probally do not even play with those people again.


Building a community requires you to play with people around you. Your server. IF you go into an instance without duty finder you should get a bonus. That means you make the party or use partyfinder. That will build the community. Your reputation means something, you build friends you can play with, and people begin to know each other. Duty Finder destroys all that for the sake of ease of use. The fact party finder is used more at endgame now is a good sign to me... devs need to take note.

[Gilthas]

I can completely see that point, I am yet to meet anyone who is trolling "abandon" or the "bad attituders"

Maybe im lucky but then again I think I have about 15 days ingame.

But .... Why is it so bad here ? many games i have played have a random dungeon option and I have never experienced anything like I read about this games version of it.

It's because FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 didn't have anything like it. In those games you always did things with your linkshell, so there was no chance of having randoms ruining your day.

I always find it funny though, how having activities with strangers "destroys the community" but always doing stuff with the same people somehow builds communities.

[Xatsh]

If there weren't any caps in the game, you'd probably be fully geared on all your classes and complaining about that.

The only ways for SE to prevent players from getting capped quickly is:

- Keep adding new content faster than their playerbase can burn through it (pretty much unfeasible).
- Caps on content (which you don't like).
- Make gear take a very long time to get (which a lot of people don't like anyway).

You have to choose lack of content or content that is not instant rewards everytime. There is no middle ground. You cannot make new content quicker then people finish it.

So what is worse.

Running out of content and being extremly bored and being forced to pay a sub. Basically paying to not be able to play

OR

Having endless amount of stuff to do, but having to grind more and being forced to pay. Basically never running out of stuff to do, but it not being all fun and rewards.



Easy solution for the devs... Have some of both. stuff to make casuals happy and stuff to keep the no-lifers happy and paying long term. Win Win... Can even be 80% casual and 20% hardcore. And it will make the hardcores happy.

[Varhaatus]

It's because FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 didn't have anything like it. In those games you always did things with your linkshell, so there was no chance of having randoms ruining your day.

I always find it funny though, how having activities with strangers "destroys the community" but always doing stuff with the same people somehow builds communities.

I must be to "old school" I quite enjoy the odds of placing 4-8 random people in a situation and saying:
" Right. There you go, one group, one path. Now work together, go clear it and bond. ..... Oh by the way you have 60 minutes"

[Gilthas]

Easy solution for the devs... Have some of both. stuff to make casuals happy and stuff to keep the no-lifers happy and paying long term. Win Win... Can even be 80% casual and 20% hardcore. And it will make the hardcores happy.

Oh, I'm totally for having stuff that needs a lot of work to be achieved (currently the only thing close to that is raising gil to buy an L sized house). But I really don't think most players would like that considering that people managed to complain about Miner and Botanist taking too long to level to 50 when the game was released. They'd just whine about it constantly until the developers caved in and made stuff easier to obtain.

[Beetle]

The Fixes SE...

SE really put themselfs in bad spot making this game so casual. For them to really fix the game they could have to: reset alot of player progress/fix quests/fix leveling/fix levequests/fix equipment/fix dungeon content/1/10 all gil again/add more open world areas/harder open world enemies/lower Fate respawn & make it more random/Add NMs/Add more quests that have cutscenes then fetch quests/Open world content that requires a group/Lower Dungeon exp/Make gathering more random & harder/Make crafting harder to HQ/make crafting worth doing/Add more content that is its own and isnt taken from FF12, FF13, FF11 or ideas from other FFs/Lower Quest EXP by 60%/Remove DoH & DoL last quest tools as best tools/Lessen Development on Vanity such as Minions, Marriage, Gear Dye, Vanity Slot, Event Gear, Chocobo Costumes, Mounts by 70%/Add Housing Bonuses/Add options to +1 Dungeon/Myth/Phil gear from ilv70+/Add Blind Market Board~Blind AH/Increase cost of all Seal equipment by 3x/Add better Materia/Add better Stats options to gear/Increase Area size by removing invisable walls to areas which can be access simple/Lower NPC repair costs if you already have the crafter leveled/Remove crystal rewards & crystal gathering locations from quests & gathering locations under lv15/Increase gil cost of npc weapon,equipment,materials shops by 9x/Option to change nations without having all your progress go back to 0/Remove the PVP equipment and just add PvP Stat Materia which can be used on reg equipment/Allow Matches to match based on player RANK in PVP/Remove item level requirement in Party Finder that goes beyond 85 up to 200/Add better rewards for ranking up in dailys/Change Egi designs/Remove Myth & phil rewards from dailys/Have all crystal tower rewards come from final dungeon boss/Make all Dungeon gear have a drop rate instead of being 100%/Lower Combat Speed/release 1.23 UI for selecting combat actions for gamepad users

There SE start working...

For love of god stop with the minions and vanity gear and vanity stuff... Just give us..
Golden Sauser- with mini games, Card Game and Personal Housing for 2014

2015 PvP Frontlines, Chocobo Rasing, Chocobo Dyes