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    Warriors are characterized by equipping swords, daggers, axes, shields, and armor, and having high physical stats. The Warrior is usually one of the basic jobs in each game, and its focus is strong melee damage and survivability. In later installments, Warriors were given the ability to lower the stats of their opponents.

    The Knight job is generally seen as an upgrade to the Warrior, but lacks the strict offensive focus of the job, gaining supportive abilities.
    A damage dealer through and through, with high stats. One of your beginning jobs.

    Final Fantasy As an invaluable asset to most parties, the Warrior is often a first choice when it comes to picking a team. The Warrior's upgrade, the Knight, is an even greater source of physical power, and can use White Magic.
    Basic unit, did damage. Could take damage better than other classes but also dealt the most damage.
    • 1 point to DPS, 1 point to tank

    Final Fantasy III
    Warriors have a high aptitude for wielding swords in battle. Having focused all their training on physical combat, they are unable to use any magic.
    Another complete damage dealer unable to use any magic.
    • 1 point to DPS, 0 points to tank

    Final Fantasy X-2
    The Warrior is a versatile fighter, able to inflict "Break" attacks to hinder enemies as well as elemental damage reminiscent to that of the Mystic Knight.
    Straight up damage dealer with ability to inflict even greater detrimental effects to the enemy
    • 1 point to DPS, 0 points to tank

    Final Fantasy - Revenant Wings
    Resembling the Fighter from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, the Warrior is a Melee unit with several hard-hitting skills. True to its Job description, several of these abilities favor power over protection.
    Exact same description as some Dark Knight ones (pulled by yourself).
    • 1 point to DPS, 0 points to tank

    Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    The Warrior is the basic melee unit of the Bangaa, with great HP and Attack growth, but low Magic and Speed. [/b]
    Explicit description of the great HP leads to think Warrior could be a great tank but the secondary idea of great Attack means primary usage is DPS.
    • 1 point DPS, 1 point to tank

    **Tactic Advance 2 is the same
    • 1 point DPS, 1 point to tank

    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
    The Warrior is a job exclusive to Clavats and male Lilties. It is a hard hitting class that uses strong offensive skills and a few defensive abilities.
    Strong offensive and few defensive means DPS, according to popular description
    • 1 point DPS, 0 points tank

    Final Fantasy Dimensions
    The Warrior is a starting job class available to both groups. Its keeps its pure offensive focus.
    As description shows.
    • 1 point dps, 0 points tank

    So based on the wiki page, Warrior should have been a pure DPS class given there are few games where it did more tank-like actions than it did DPS. But Square Enix decided to fuse it with Beserker and make it into a tank. Why? High HP from a few games, melee class dictated that it was a perfectly viable tank candidate.

    Going by the wiki is fine for unbiased information, but one must look at information with an open mind. It's like people, with emotional attachment, don't listen to reason or even *try* to listen to reason. It's perfectly understandable that Dark Knight could, and more than likely will be, a DPS class. Although, if you're completely disregarding the possibility that it could be a tank class, that's just ignorance. There is no explicit proof that Dark Knight could be a tank just like there was no explicit proof that Warrior could be a tank but Square Enix made it so.

    Then the argument gets made,
    Final Fantasy XI made Warrior a tank, so that's where it comes from.
    That's all fine and dandy in bizarro world until you remember that FFXI is where Ninja, who had 0 points in being able to tank in any previous game, became a tank in FFXI. Does this mean Ninja should be a tank in FFXIV? Should Thief (if it became a job) should be an evasion tank as well since it's just a weaker Ninja? How about Dancer? Where does it stop?

    In the end, Square Enix might only add *one* more tank and *one* more healer to the FFXIV roster and then everything else will be DPS. If that's the case, then Samurai will more than likely be tank and Dark Knight would be DPS. However, if that's not the case Square Enix would be shooting themselves in the foot if they give away possible tank candidates to make classes that have no place being tanking class into tanks (see FFXI Ninja).

    Total Points

    8 points DPS
    3 points Tank
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    Last edited by Exstal; 01-25-2014 at 08:08 AM.

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