Melee DPS not allowed anywhere, Thx SE.

[loldrg]

A) Outside of SMN (who excels at all 3 extremes because of the mechanics) you are better than any ranged DPS on Titan Extreme. Farm that. I flat out don't join Titan Ex groups in PF where there's 1 or more BLM. They need to work much harder than literally every other DPS class to still have the worst DPS on that fight.

B) If you can dodge Wicked Wheel make your own Garuda Extreme parties. Yeah nobody wants melee for Garuda because 75%+ of melee cannot dodge the mechanic that makes nobody want to bring melee. If you can by all means make your own PTs, because again your single target DPS during the burn phases (plumes) and if you become known as a reliable melee for these fights people will join/invite you (trust me you stand out).

[loldrg]

Cont'd.

Unfortunately yeah melee gets boned on Ifrit because of the healer searing wind mechanic but its just a matter of making a group that understands how to change the nail rotation (clockwise/counterclockwise) to accomodate a melee or just LB the nails south of ifrit where searing wind wont hit you. Also tons of 3 ranged 1 melee groups I know bring a melee to LB big nail then have a more relaxed pace through the rest of hte phase for everyone. Make one of those PTs. Put the strat in PF.

But honestly? Suck it up. Yeah BRD and SMN get preference because of their support functionality (Swiftcast Battle Raise / MP song / Foe) ontop of their ability to DPS while moving in all fights. But 2.1 brought the buff melee needed. I would rather have a good MNK than a shitty ranged any day of the week and the same is true for lots of other people.

[Hitome]

Hehe let those players keep thinking melee are inferior. You know most PF groups never succeed anyways, right?

I play a BLM main. I think Garuda is the only anti-melee fight IF the melee AND/OR the tanks do not know what they're doing. Otherwise, it's just business as usual.

MNK and DRG both push out wonderful numbers and DRG even modified ranged DPS.

Let them continue to stack compositions: they'll just be met with something like another LB nerf.

[Duelle]

it wont change same thing in FFXI & FFXIV v1.

you just "thorw BLM's at it." unless they make melee OP i dont see people changing there minds about ranged dps. people dont care if you make a party there looking for the easy win.

It's possible to design fights with mechanics that challenge ranged and other mechanics that challenge melee. Having multiple bosses per endgame raid would also help, because if boss A is challenging to ranged and boss B is challenging to melee, you have a solid reason to bring a balanced group comp.

[Kiroh]

it wont change same thing in FFXI & FFXIV v1.

you just "thorw BLM's at it." unless they make melee OP i dont see people changing there minds about ranged dps. people dont care if you make a party there looking for the easy win.

Actually in 1.0, Ifrit HM was "Just throw more lancers at it". But yes, SE has a bad track record of balancing content among classes. In XI they even made it almost impossible to just grind exp in Aht Urghan zones for anyone who wasn't a piercing physical DD.

[valho]

We always bring 1 or 2 melee for our primal ex farm. Only bad players would think bringing melee is bad.

[Holyhunter]

I think the 3 other groups in that image would accept a melee dps

[cotti]

Melee DPS not allowed in X, Thx SE.

Indeed, that kind of thread grew old quickly - so quickly at least you kind of saved us from other blurts about this, since it can't escalate more than "anywhere".

Strange, I just ran Titan and Ifrit with PF with groups featuring melees. I didn't think anything negative about them, nor did the other party members. Since your data is so accurate, it shouldn't happen.

[Xenor]

Now you know how us BLMs feel every time we see a Titan extreme group with BLMs locked out. I can see why, it's a difficult job to play in the fight and most people suck at it so people don't want to risk it. People (especially PF groups) like easy wins, and it's the same in those "anti-melee" fights. A good melee will navigate them fine but it's more difficult than for a ranged DD.

[Rubieus]

Those are the ignorant groups. World's first Twintania had a Monk in the party, and I've managed to dodge Wicked Wheels perfectly in Garuda Extreme and am able to predict them and react accordingly, and good luck with having no Melee limit break to help you out. If you can't adjust your strategy based on the roles of the group, then you are just being lazy.

As a "career" drg I am saddened to say that my brd sees more play time, the fights are significantly easier on the healers and the dps is equal if not better, I am not saying its not impossible to play as a melee, but the fact remains, melee have it harder on them than ranged classes, and don't have the damage to show for it. (blm does more damage on anything more than drg.)