A party member has withdrawn...

[Ishmachiah]

People dont seem to understand that in-progress was to be used to be willing to help groups that need a replacement, it was not meant to be used to skip half of a dungeon. Dungeons are meant to be completed start to finish, we cant and should not be making it easier for someone to jump in, fight 1 boss they want and then leave.

Then remove the ability to join a dungeon in progress altogether. Your party fell apart? Not my problem, requeue and start from the beginning. It is just as selfish to expect someone to join your party after you wiped, in order to carry you the rest of the way to completion.

[Pavise]

And in progress fishing is still rampart in the queue for CT, LOVELY.

[Tiraelina]

Then remove the ability to join a dungeon in progress altogether. Your party fell apart? Not my problem, requeue and start from the beginning. It is just as selfish to expect someone to join your party after you wiped, in order to carry you the rest of the way to completion.

It's incredibly selfish to expect anything you want from something randomly matching you with others.

[Ri_ri]

Then remove the ability to join a dungeon in progress altogether. Your party fell apart? Not my problem, requeue and start from the beginning. It is just as selfish to expect someone to join your party after you wiped, in order to carry you the rest of the way to completion.

When I read those posts, here's what I think they mean:

Join in progress is there to help my group when I need a replacement;
When I am queueing, you should start fresh with me.

Nevermind the option doesn't have any "help" described... one would expect that the "Join party in progress" option would actually give you a party in progress.

[Ishmachiah]

When I read those posts, here's what I think they mean:

Join in progress is there to help my group when I need a replacement;
When I am queueing, you should start fresh with me.

Nevermind the option doesn't have any "help" described... one would expect that the "Join party in progress" option would actually give you a party in progress.

This was also how I read it to be and why I said to remove the option to fill empty party slots. You start and finish with the group you have or you start the dungeon over. That will fix all of their dungeon queuing problems and see to it that no one spams.

[Doo]

You start and finish with the group you have or you start the dungeon over. That will fix all of their dungeon queuing problems and see to it that no one spams.

That's how Neverwinter does it. Blind would probably be better for this game though.


Anyways I'm glad S.E address the super serious issue but that was a terrible way to do it.

[Aleczan]

The join party in progress is, in my opinion, originally intended to allow a random helper to appear in a party that got a quitter so that they won't be forever stranded in there or just have to quit and fail despite all their previous effort. This is an excellent feature. However, to let a replacement member have an easy dungeon (not having to do all the work from the start) is a by-product. Honestly I think, as a queuing person, there is nothing wrong in expecting for a fluke to land in a party already in progress.

However, as one of the waiting 23 persons who really want to go into CT, for example, I feel it is a total douchebaggery of someone to repeatedly hit WITHDRAW from the party when they see it is starting from the beginning, not mid-run. You did not earn the progress. Expecting a freebies is fine, forcing the freebies to happen is not, especially when you are making a bunch of other people suffer the unwarranted wait and the repeatedly failing Kachinging! of commence window. If your luck would let you have it in first try, then you kind of earn it, yes congrats, enjoy. But if you don't get in a party in progress in the first time, just go in from start or just don't go. Let other people who really want to go in go.

[HEC]

I totally agree , there are more things wrong with the game than this .

... says the preson who plays tank (again) - go play DPS and try to queue for CT and THEN come back and tell everyone here there are things more "wrong" then this.

Like for example I cant friend or blacklist players in DF . They need to remove the boundries that servers place on the game once and for all.

You clearly have no clue how the MMOs / Online games with multiply servers / realms / worlds works, do you??

Those are separated on purpose! There is no point having someone on FL or BL from another world, as you can't communicate with them anyway outside of the DF instance. And do you realize that on each server character with the same name as yours or anyone else could be created by someone else? The technical difficulties, cost and server load to allow cross-server sommunications are not worth this at all. This is pretty much standards at any other multi world online game outthere as well.

[Lyrinn]

Those are separated on purpose! There is no point having someone on FL or BL from another world, as you can't communicate with them anyway outside of the DF instance. And do you realize that on each server character with the same name as yours or anyone else could be created by someone else? The technical difficulties, cost and server load to allow cross-server sommunications are not worth this at all. This is pretty much standards at any other multi world online game outthere as well.

And yet, GW2 has no problems with whispering, friending, blocking, or even partying people from other servers.
Your argument is invalid.

[Penance007]

This game is already losing a lot of people and i'm quite concerned about so many people asking for changes that would make even more people leave ==>
Less people = even longer wait time for queues.

ANd a lot of people also leave a dungeon if they notice the party is doomed. If there is only half a group remaining in CT and they didnt even get past the first boss its quite obvious that using DF may end up being quicker then sticking around. It may be selfish but people dont like to waste time.