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    Quote Originally Posted by VisRalis View Post
    Mind you, using magic consumes Aether.
    By logic, all adventurers are also evil subjectively too.
    1 entity consuming a lot of Aether is not more evil than a whole population consuming Aether for spells.
    (But this is totally not talked about and only mentioned by the Padjals on the topic of White & Black magic - both is equally bad and needs moderation).

    But its just typical Humans (Hyurs, Miqo'te, ...etc w/e) are more important than everyone else.
    If its them doing all the bad Aether consuming, it's ok! But its evil if its someone else.

    Bahamut's an exception I guess, he just consumes way too much.

    Funny thought, pure Garleans who can't use magic are the most 'good' in nature, as far as Aether consumption is concerned.
    not exactly, the second (or was it third?) umbral era was caused by massive overuse of black and white magic, however, most of the magic that adventurers use now isn't the same as in the past, the only job that uses magic in such a dangerous way is WHM.

    ACN, SMN and SCH don't actually USE much aether, they use a small amount to redirect natural aether currents using patterns and formulae contained in their grimoires (acn/smn pets release their aether when they are desummoned, so they're aether neutral)

    BLMs and THMs aether is fairly strange, the THM quests make it clear that they are using the PLAYER'S aether, and that mechanically, meditating on astral fire and umbral ice allows their aether to rapidly regenerate (which is why CNJ and ACN don't get umbral ice from Blizz2, they are just using the spell, not actually meditating on umbral ice).

    CNJ and WHM are the big exceptions, the whole point of the CNJ questline is to cement the fact that they use their own aether like THMs, but rather than regaining aether through meditation, nature gives them their aether back, if a CNJ uses too much aether without accepting more from nature, they overexert themselves and die, however, the amount of aether that they are allowed is purely at the discretion of the elementals, if you are using too much aether, they'll probably just refuse to give you any more until you stop being so wasteful (amusingly, that's probably put sylphie in the elementals good books, considering that she tried to stop using magic at all fearing that she's hurting the elementals by using ANY magic).

    in the past, when there was no regulation for WHMs, EVERYONE was using full on white magic with no regard for what would happen, both WHMs and BLMs were taking aether directly from the lifestream and the sheer amount of magic used in the war of the magi brought about an umbral era. now, BLMs all use the THM's methods of restoring aether, whilst lorewise, WHMs are strictly regulated (canonically, you are the only non-padjal WHM, and you are one of the few remaining BLMs), CNJ are WHMs regulated by the elementals, rather than just ripping magic from the lifestream, whilst WHMs are free of such restrictions on the use of their magic, hence only the padjal, the ones that the elementals specifically choose, are allowed to become WHMs (and yourself, by virtue of being A-Towa's heir, and even then, one of the two padjal was fairly worried about the prospect)

    don't forget that in the lore, there are very few people with job classes, you're the only dragoon, the only non-padjal WHM, one of the 5 remaining BLMs, (I'm not 100% sure about the PLD, BRD, or WAR quests, I've not done those ones yet), the second summoner to exist since allag's fall (although more can exist, the sons of saint coniach are specifically getting more souls of the summoner to help train more), and the first scholar since the fall of nym (technically, others can exist, although you're the only one with a fairy unless they discover more souls of the scholar, the techniques of the scholars can be taught to others though). all of the other players are technically non-canon (amusingly, in the hildibrand quests, it's mentioned that since you beat ultima, other people have been claiming to be warriors of light with fake relics)

    the primals on the other hand use up aether just by existing

    so, really, which is worse? a single WHM adventurer who happens to have unrestricted access to the lifestream's aether, or the primals?
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    Last edited by Pentacus; 01-20-2014 at 08:57 PM.