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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
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    I've been playing a tank since I started these games. You are not a special snowflake. You don't deserve anything. This has nothing to do with DPS queues. Posts like yours are just reinforcing the need to shut down this behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    I've been playing a tank since I started these games. You are not a special snowflake. You don't deserve anything. This has nothing to do with DPS queues. Posts like yours are just reinforcing the need to shut down this behaviour.
    This has everything to do with DPS queues. Granted, balancing role population would not eliminate in-progress fishing. However, if tanks (and to a lesser extent, healers) did not get instant queues, then they would not fish as often or agressively. And the reason that fishers get instant queues is because of the role imbalance due primarily to a preponderance of DPS players.

    Players who play desired roles such as tanks and healers can and should be encouraged with incentives.

    I never said I was a "special snowflake" and deserved anything. The personal attacks are not appreciated. Just because I'm defending others doesn't mean I'm inviting character attacks. Let's debate the issue and not each other's motivations.

    Your personal anecdote is certainly valid. However, I contend that more people would play tanks (and still be cooperative, nice players) if we gave them more incentives. Although you don't need more incentives to continue playing a tank, other players do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
    This has everything to do with DPS queues. Granted, balancing role population would not eliminate in-progress fishing. However, if tanks (and to a lesser extent, healers) did not get instant queues, then they would not fish as often or agressively. And the reason that fishers get instant queues is because of the role imbalance due primarily to a preponderance of DPS players.

    Players who play desired roles such as tanks and healers can and should be encouraged with incentives.

    I never said I was a "special snowflake" and deserved anything. The personal attacks are not appreciated. Just because I'm defending others doesn't mean I'm inviting character attacks. Let's debate the issue and not each other's motivations.

    Your personal anecdote is certainly valid. However, I contend that more people would play tanks (and still be cooperative, nice players) if we gave them more incentives. Although you don't need more incentives to continue playing a tank, other players do.
    Here an actual personal attack (from you).

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    I can't tell if you're incredibly short-sighted or just completely ignorant of the reality
    Here's the special snowflake.

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    need to cater ("bend over") for players in desired roles
    Here's the idea you deserve anything for a role.

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    reap a benefit they deserve
    You know what would happen if they hid in progress dungeons? Life would go on, just like it already is in other games. Games that have the same role imbalances. Games that didn't need separated queues to fix a problem that only exists because you can see its in progress.

    There's little if any discussion coming from you. Just inflated self worth over a role that doesn't want a problem fixed because:

    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
    It's risky enough to use the duty finder and landing in a bad alliance that has at least progressed halfway or more; it's even worse to risk the chance of joining a bad alliance that has to start from the beginning.
    Welcome to online games, enjoy your stay!
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