Dark Knight

[Bloodclaw]

The remove enmity fix is not the only problem DRK would need a shield or the base GLD skills need a rework other wise you end up with what 4-5 skills that the DRK can not use in any way.

The work needed to have it come off GLD means the odds are if any thing it will come form Mara there is no need to read all the topic to work out the rework needed to make it work form GLD.

I know what yoshi said and people take it the wrong way and go DRK is coming form GLD its a fact yoshi said so and that is not what he said he just gave a basic example of HOW it could be.

The whole style of DRK form most other games puts it as coming form the Mara if not a whole new base class it self unless you go with the real old ff games where it did run around with a shield.

Don't let her get to you, she is clearly trolling. Yeah I am calling you out Exstal :P

[Volsung]

I am in agreement that Dark Knight would be much more suited to come from a new class, that could be tailored to handle both a tank and DD job branching off from it.

Is it possible to make DRK come from pld or mrd? you bet. But being tailored would leave the best experience in everyone's mouths. That goes for any
new job they want to release from existing classes. It will take a lot of work, but sure its doable.

[Kadenx]

give me a great sword class, with DD job DRK, and tank job Rune Fencer
and we can all be friends lol

Scythe can even come back as a different class, go for it, but I'd love a
large sword dark knight

I completely agree with this! mainly becuz when Rune Fencer was released on FFXI i had stopped playing by then, lol. But similar to SCH/SMN branching from Arcanist. They could do the same and have a class that uses Great Swords branch off to Rune Fencer as tank and Dark Knight as DPS, I would love that. SE make it happen PLEASE!!

[Exstal]

Don't let her get to you, she is clearly trolling. Yeah I am calling you out Exstal :P

Using logic is trolling..where have I seen that before?

[Cynric]

Its fairly simple. All increase enmity skills instead now have reduced enmity bonus while the job stone is on. Rampart can change from giving 20 defense to reducing defense by 20 to increase damage by 5%. This can be repeated across all skills and frankly is the laziest way to do it.

Changing base skills to suit a different job isn't a very difficult process. Games with access to multiple job paths do it all the time. If Dark Knight is limited by anything it will be the creativity of the dev team. You could make DRK come from Conjurer and still make it work Class skill wise. Changing skills around certainly isn't an issue. If anything I'd look at previous weapons. Which of course were mostly swords , along with fan conception seeing a connection between DRK and PLD. That's why people think it will come from Gladiator. As far as FF classes go there are plenty of things that already use axes that fans would be happy to have be the DPS on MRD.

Its only logical to assume based on previous titles, what the dev team themselves have said, along with the way FF handles Dark Knight, to assume that it could come from GLD and not MRD, it would of course be even better for them to make it come from a brand new class but that's up to the Dev team,

I keep seeing the only reason Dark Knight should come from MRD is the life drain skills. Dark Knights can easily have Blood weapons that drain health as they have done in the past . Having an entire skill set that drains health isn't at all what Dark Knights do. They take away health to do damage. They drain it back either through a singular skill or through their weapons. Not with a live forever setup. They are glass cannons that reduce their own health or defense, not extremely high HP steal damagers that can live forever.

[Jadmus]

(posterity)

[Bloodclaw]

As for the Op, I think I have made my point.

[Volux]

I still see Lancer as the best current class to create Dark Knight out of. The lance curves into scythe to give a FFXI throwback. They already have a lifestealing ability in Life Surge and all kinds of DPS, and the jumps all get replaced by the Drk job skills. Their skills already sound Dark Knighty in Chaos thrust, blood for blood, doom spike... Make blm the req sub and marauder the other cross and done. Perhaps even tweak the marauder skills that have life steal to also be cross class. Souleater lvl 30 job skill and other cool things from their.

[yondaimeflash]

I love all these comments about Dark Knight branching from tanks. Last I checked the Dark Knight is a DPS or DD class. Given and as much as I hate to say this about MY most favorite class in all of final fantasy may become a tank the way 14 is Dark Knight could become a tank. The class or classes I see it pulling from is Mrd because they kinda already have life stealing abilities even though there crap or a new one that they make. I wouldve said Blm but not of there abilities are like they were in 11 were you can absorb health or states. (edit) One thing I would like to add though is I really do hope that the Dark Knights weapon is not a two handed sword they looked hideous in 11 though gfx are better now that what they were back then but two handed swords to me just aren't that awesome. Now a scythe or a sword and shield now we are talking lol.

[Alistaire]

I love all these comments about Dark Knight branching from tanks. Last I checked the Dark Knight is a DPS or DD class. Given and as much as I hate to say this about MY most favorite class in all of final fantasy may become a tank the way 14 is Dark Knight could become a tank. The class or classes I see it pulling from is Mrd because they kinda already have life stealing abilities even though there crap or a new one that they make. I wouldve said Blm but not of there abilities are like they were in 11 were you can absorb health or states. (edit) One thing I would like to add though is I really do hope that the Dark Knights weapon is not a two handed sword they looked hideous in 11 though gfx are better now that what they were back then but two handed swords to me just aren't that awesome. Now a scythe or a sword and shield now we are talking lol.

Arcanist. And yes that's a complete rebuttal to your post.