"In-Progress" queue fishing has to stop

[Grailer]

A solution to this problem would be to add a 10-30min lockout upon multiple withdrawals from a ready DF que, either that or just hide the in progress(1/4 bosses down etc) display as suggested above.

1) If they hide the progress then people would just join , then leave . They don't get penalty for leaving a group in progress .

2) 30min lockout for multiple withdrawals would slow down the spam, but say the number is 4 withdrawals = 30 mins lockout . People would just join on the 4th and leave instantly the group is made and get 30 min lock out . But now you have group missing 1 player in which you have to wait for spot to get filled .. which might be a healer or tank spot usually . See 1)

The solution is to allow players who want group in progress to get group in progress and not a group that isn't in progress.

[synaesthetic]

The solution is to allow players who want group in progress to get group in progress and not a group that isn't in progress.

That is the colossally retarded idea that everyone else is bandying around. Do you realize how much worse that would make DPS queues? Queue fishers are almost exclusively tanks, because only tanks have no or nearly no queue times.

The Duty Finder should, under no circumstances, tell you whether the group is new or in-progress. You should have no way of knowing until you get inside. Upon getting into a new instance, if you leave, then you will eat a 30 minute penalty.

This small change will stop queue fishers instantly.

[Skotie]

That is the colossally retarded idea that everyone else is bandying around. Do you realize how much worse that would make DPS queues? Queue fishers are almost exclusively tanks, because only tanks have no or nearly no queue times.

The Duty Finder should, under no circumstances, tell you whether the group is new or in-progress. You should have no way of knowing until you get inside. Upon getting into a new instance, if you leave, then you will eat a 30 minute penalty.

This small change will stop queue fishers instantly.

Lets assume they change it to what you propose. What is there to stop upset tanks from joining then preforming horribly on purpose to get booted so they can just rejoin another queue anyways? Are we also going to give those booted a cooldown timer? How do we know it was there fault and they weren't just having an off day?

[Zakalwe]

Lets assume they change it to what you propose. What is there to stop upset tanks from joining then preforming horribly on purpose to get booted so they can just rejoin another queue anyways? Are we also going to give those booted a cooldown timer? How do we know it was there fault and they weren't just having an off day?

Are you saying you would do this?

[BloodPact]

That is the colossally retarded idea that everyone else is bandying around. Do you realize how much worse that would make DPS queues? Queue fishers are almost exclusively tanks, because only tanks have no or nearly no queue times.

The Duty Finder should, under no circumstances, tell you whether the group is new or in-progress. You should have no way of knowing until you get inside. Upon getting into a new instance, if you leave, then you will eat a 30 minute penalty.

This small change will stop queue fishers instantly.

My main is a DPS but I tank most of the time in dungeons to evade this problem, and agreed, the best solution would be to remove all visible indication that you will (or won't) be joining a party in progress and place the 30 minute wait for any type of instance drop except for full premades.

[Grailer]

My main is a DPS but I tank most of the time in dungeons to evade this problem, and agreed, the best solution would be to remove all visible indication that you will (or won't) be joining a party in progress and place the 30 minute wait for any type of instance drop except for full premades.

Im a tank , I used to fish but its too hard now because there are too many fishers out there fishing for fish . I can see the benefit of fishing CT if you need item from last boss .

But if I get group in progress when I don't want one Guess what lad , I will quit that group and take the 30 min debuff and alt tab and go play hearth stone , or muck around on kerbin space program or play some GTA5 etc , maybe I will watch some youtube

Fact is I could spend all day joining groups and quiting because I really only need to do 1 roulette a day to cap my myth.

[BloodPact]

Im a tank , I used to fish but its too hard now because there are too many fishers out there fishing for fish . I can see the benefit of fishing CT if you need item from last boss .

But if I get group in progress when I don't want one Guess what lad , I will quit that group and take the 30 min debuff and alt tab and go play hearth stone , or muck around on kerbin space program or play some GTA5 etc , maybe I will watch some youtube

Fact is I could spend all day joining groups and quiting because I really only need to do 1 roulette a day to cap my myth.

That is your problem and decision. The fact is, you'll be punished with 30 minutes of not being able to register again. And that will not only affect you. It will also spare the other 7 people you screwed over from having to endure another of your drops for the next 30 minutes.

[Bankai305]

Please, tell us how queue fishers not using DF will slow down those trying to start new parties? Because right now, they only effect they have on them is already slowing them down. How does wanting queues for starting new parties justify the tool being used for fishing? A 30 minute penalty for fishing hurts new parties how? The fisher isn't going to stay in the party anyways, so how does removing them from the queue hurt the new party? Please, tell us.

The reason why you stay queued for 30 minutes with people dropping is because NO ONE is queuing for NEW content. EVERYONE is queuing for In-Progress, and they ditch when they get put in a new one. So, if you removed the fishers, trust me you will STILL sit for 30 minutes queued, but with the difference than now instead of getting a pop/withdraw, you won't get a single pop and your queue will take forever.

If people were queuing for NEW instances, you would NOT be waiting 30 minutes, would you now?

[faldette]

character limit snip!

You didn't answer a single one of my questions. Congratulations. Also, you kind of prove our points. If you accepted the party and ran it with us, we wouldn't be waiting as long. Also, if "EVERYONE" is queued for in-progress, how are those that are wanting new parties existing and not waiting longer than forever? Again, please tell us how people actually queuing for new parties instead of fishing for in-progress would slow down new parties.

[Doo]

The reason why you stay queued for 30 minutes with people dropping is because NO ONE is queuing for NEW content. EVERYONE is queuing for In-Progress, and they ditch when they get put in a new one.

I'm sure players will think twice before ditching since 30 mins is a steep penalty. If there's no other way to speed up farming and a full run is the only way to get things done, they would have to do the dungeon in it's entirety. Even if they don't, having no pops is better than all the false hopes that withdraws give and having to pay attention whenever commence pops up.

No idea why queue fishers think they are doing the game a service when they are merely trying to cheat the system.

Ive been so lonely, girl
Ive been so sad and down
Couldnt understand
Why haters joked around
I wanted to be free
with other creatures like me
And now I got my wish
Cuz I know that Im a queue fish
(queue fish, yo)