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Thread: The Monk Temple

  1. #1361
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnarWolfram View Post
    If that is the case explain to me how else monks make up for DPS. Have you even looked at the skill set that Warriors have. They are no chumps when it comes to DPS. Maybe I am off on my math skills but assuming a Warrior has comparable stats( I know its not going to be exact) a 150 potency attack is a 150 potency attack. So yes, without greased lightning and twin snakes monks would be just about as effective as a Warrior. I have 520 potency with my best rotation BS->True Strike->SP assuming that I am positioned properly for everything (I.E. an enemy doesnt rotate to face me while I am using any of the abilities). A Warriors top rotation is HS->Maim->BB with 630 Potency (or if we include Defiance and only apply the Maim bonus to Butcher's Block ~529). Maybe I am just bad at math but numbers dont lie.

    GL is essential to a Monk being a DPS class, so I do not know where your facts are saying Monk can still out DPS all tanks even without Twin Snakes and GL
    Numbers don't lie, that is correct, however you seem to have forgotten about monks auto attacks which, by my parses at least, account for around 40% of our total damage done (which is always our top source of damage btw).
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    Last edited by Traison; 01-15-2014 at 04:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnarWolfram View Post
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    Damage numbers sound fairly normal to me for your gear. Maybe hey _were_ lying to you. I can't see a WAR putting out that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnarWolfram View Post
    Titan is not a DPS race except for heart phase and obviously I was not slowing down the group as we cleared it both times.
    I farmed Titan EX on my MNK and on my WAR, soon will be farming on my SCH. The fight is a DPS race, great DPS give you a better chance of winning more than anything. The shortest the fight, the less chance of people dying/messing up. Have you ever seen Titan dies before the first superbomb? Well I have, we ignore the superbombs and burn through Titan. I move from flank to rear without messing everyone up with a misplaced plume. I'm able to keep GL stacks up unless I get Gaoled or when I mess up my timing when Titan jump before heart phase (the first jump I can time perfectly so I dont lose my stacks).


    I also attack the bombs when I need to dodge stuff, criss-cross for example. So I dont have to stand there and do nothing while waiting to bait the landslide and letting my GL fall off. My point is, if you are not playing the job right, you are holding your group back. Even if you get jailed 100% of the time, no WAR should out DPS you. For reference, average tank DPS for Titan EX would be around 90-140 DPS and my MNK between 280-320 depending on Gaol RNG (that was before I got Allagan weapon and Allagan cuirass, so it may be slightly better now).
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    this isnt a fight where you stay on the rear, complaining about getting gaoled will get you nowhere, from what it sounds like, youre lost in your rotations because you dont know titans.

    learn EX's rotation, if it isnt a weight phase, dont be a noob, get on the flank and do your thing.

    even if youre unable to do the above, keeping your normal rotation on the rear should be around 210 dps even on a bad day.

    bring food, if you arent youre holding them back even more.

    learn when the phase changes occur so you can be mid combo during geocrush, or learn 2 perfect balance.

    complaining here instead of trying something new isnt going to earn you a weapon you obviously dont deserve yet.
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    Picked up FFXIV-App again.

    Walked outside Ul'Dah, applied ToD to a dummy, wrote down every tic and compared it to the parse results.

    Nope.

    Is there a parser that reads memory yet?
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    have you tried log rep?
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkguy View Post
    this isnt a fight where you stay on the rear, complaining about getting gaoled will get you nowhere, from what it sounds like, youre lost in your rotations because you dont know titans.

    learn EX's rotation, if it isnt a weight phase, dont be a noob, get on the flank and do your thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnarWolfram View Post
    I know the rotations so I do my best to go to his flank afterwards and re-position when Weight of the Land is eminent.
    Please read before making comments. It really helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    Picked up FFXIV-App again.

    Walked outside Ul'Dah, applied ToD to a dummy, wrote down every tic and compared it to the parse results.

    Nope.

    Is there a parser that reads memory yet?
    ACT does with the new updates
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  9. #1369
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    Monk guy,

    Nice try grabbing your pitchfork with all the others to jump on the bandwagon and getting sat down by the guy everyone is ragging on, I'm sure we won't hear from you again in this thread. Learn to read before you talk trash.
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    Hmm. Hello,

    Can anyone post some monk rotations post 2.1?
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