The Monk Temple

[Vandesaan]

I have a couple of gear sets that I use for different contents. Here are the gear sets I currently have and proposed BiS in parethesis.

For contents outside of Coil:
Allagan Baghnakhs
Allagan Visor of Striking
Allagan Cuirass of Striking
Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
Allagan Trousers of Striking
Allagan Sollerets of Striking
Allagan Choker of Striking
Tremor Earring of Striking
Hero's Bracelet of Slaying (Allagan Bracelets of Maiming)
Allagan Ring of Maiming
Vortex Ring of Striking (Hero's Ring of Slaying)


For Coil:
Allagan Baghnakhs
Allagan Visor of Striking
Allagan Cuirass of Striking
Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
Melee Gaskins
Allagan Sollerets of Striking
Allagan Choker of Maiming
Allagan Earring of Maiming
Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
Allagan Ring of Maiming
Vortex Ring of Striking (Allagan Ring of Striking)



My proposed BiS for Coil only has 469 accuracy but I parsed T5 for over 50 hours and have never missed with 464 accuracy. If I want to add more accuracy I have Inferno Bangles of Striking for +5 extra accuracy or I can get a Melee Circlet. I want to believe 464 accuracy is not capped for T1-T5 but I just haven't seen a single miss. I've only seen misses when I forgot to switch from my town gear (410ish accuracy).

I've seen recent posts saying that Melee Cyclas and Melee Gloves are better than their Allagan counterparts becuase Cyclas has more accuracy and Gloves has 4 more Determination but I am not a fan of too much Skill Speed at a cost of other (more useful) secondary stats.

What is your reasoning behind stacking Determination to this extent? Depending on your stats, 6 to 8 points of determination will MAYBE add ONE (1) damage to a 150 potency attack. The way itemization then works, that is the equivalent of 11 or 16 critical hit rate or skill speed, which nets way larger gains, upwards of 1% to 2% increase over time compared to a single digit more of damage with not even close to 1% increase compared. There's almost no skill speed, sub-500 crit and above 250 determination?! I don't understand your thinking behind this.

I propose this to maximize DPS throughput, while gaining the needed accuracy through food, so gear can be used in any fight;

Allagan Baghnaks
Melee Circlet
Melee Cyclas
Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
Hero's Belt of Striking
Allagan Trousers of Striking
Melee Boots
Hero's Necklace of Slaying
Allagan Earrings of Striking
Allagan Bracelets of Striking
Allagan Ring of Striking
Vortex Ring of Striking

This gives:
439 accuracy (460 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
530 Critical Hit Rate (539 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
240 Determination
453 Skill Speed

This allows for roughly 4.5 minutes of continued damage while maintaining ~400 DPS, no Fracture involved. No phases in any fight in this game with sufficient good DPS requires you to non-stop be hitting buttons for anything longer than 4.5 minutes without having to avoid damage. For fights where you have to avoid damage you can keeps this going into infinity as you will get free ticks of 60 TP without using it up.

[mercenarri]

I've seen some monks choose the Fuma Koromo over the Melee Cyclas. Is the +21 DET from the Fuma worth the -4 STR decrease?

[Allyrion]

I've seen some monks choose the Fuma Koromo over the Melee Cyclas. Is the +21 DET from the Fuma worth the -4 STR decrease?

If you can use the accuracy from the cyclas (by dropping it somewhere else), then no.
If you can't and you will be overcapped, then yes.

[EasymodeX]

I missed an attack on Twintania with 471 acc. RNG is RNG.

[Oblit]

I missed an attack on Twintania with 471 acc. RNG is RNG.

I agree but I haven't seen a miss at 464, what if hit rate really caps at 99.999%? That even if you have 485+ accuracy you can still miss? RNG is RNG.

I was thinking about getting Melee Circlet for +15 accuracy but it is hard to give up +15 Determination on 50+ hours worth of damage done without missing a single time. That +15 Determination could outweigh a single miss that I may encounter in the near future. Until I experience that single miss, I will stick to my gear set.

[Instrumentality]

I missed an attack on Twintania with 471 acc. RNG is RNG.

Were you attacking from the front when this happened?

It's completely possible to slip too far forward and register a frontal attack against a boss mob in Coil and miss with <478 accuracy. You should only need 458 accuracy when attacking from the side and 435 when attacking from the rear. Since MNK has plenty of side-attack bonuses you should shoot for ~458.

[Oblit]

Were you attacking from the front when this happened?

It's completely possible to slip too far forward and register a frontal attack against a boss mob in Coil and miss with <478 accuracy. You should only need 458 accuracy when attacking from the side and 435 when attacking from the rear. Since MNK has plenty of side-attack bonuses you should shoot for ~458.

^This, I've heard about this numerous times and heard about it from tanks. With close to 480 accuracy they still suffer from occasional misses, makes a lot of sense because tanks spends most of the time fighting the bosses from the front. Also most groups have to position themselves to fight Asclepius from the front a few seconds before the 2nd sets of Dive-Bombs. That could be the reason why most high accuracy misses happened during the Snakes phase.

[EasymodeX]

The miss was on a Disembowel on Twintania after I landed a successful Impulse Drive and before I landed a failed Chaos Thrust and Spineshatter Dive. It's possible I was attacking from the front, but the likelihood is low-ish. There are a number of situations where Twintania turns.

Your 458 and 435 numbers sound absurd. How were those derived?

I agree but I haven't seen a miss at 464, what if hit rate really caps at 99.999%? That even if you have 485+ accuracy you can still miss? RNG is RNG.

I've had >482 acc for a while based on gear. I had absolutely 0 misses for about 2 months on any Coil content.

The miss rate is probably trivial for a wide stretch of accuracy levels. However, the damage gained is also pretty trivial. It's obviously less relevant for a Monk since your stance is maintained after a miss, so you can just re-use the ability.

[Instrumentality]

Your 458 and 435 numbers sound absurd. How were those derived?

Attacking Twinn from the side.

Magic attacks are omnidirectional and require ~435 accuracy to never miss. Attacking Twin from the rear as a physical dps with ~435 accuracy doesn't produce any misses, either. Attacking Twin from the side with 435 accuracy produces a ~5% miss rate (over a thousand attacks). ~458 accuracy produces a miss rate of less than one over a thousand attacks.

Feel free to test it if you want. Same thing with attacking from the front, but the accuracy requirement is higher on the front than on the side (I'm not sure if we ever determined if it was 475 or 478 to never miss from the front, but I can't get my accuracy below 479 with my current gear so it's hard for me to test lesser accuracy amounts.)

[EasymodeX]

So in terms of "derived", you mean this is your personal observation after a large quantity of parsing?