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  1. #1
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 50
    I don't think there is enough aggregate data to pull down actual percentages, but from my experiences farming T1-4, the drops tables aren't right. For the past 4 weeks straight, my static has had nothing but accessories drop on Turns 2 and 4. The accessories seem to favor BRD, MNK, and DRG (just like OPs comment) for some reason. Though mileage may vary, we have had duplicate items for a month. In my tenure of running coil (a month and a half after releaseish to last night), I have never seen the following:

    Allagan Cuirass of Aiming
    Allagan Tunic of Healing
    Allagan Gloves of Aiming
    Allagan Cuirass of Maiming
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Allagan Gloves of Casting
    Allagan Visor of Aiming
    Allagan Boots of Healing
    Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Heavy Allagan Gauntlets
    Allagan Breeches of Casting
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking

    We run Coil weekly. That we have never seen any of the above items drop is concerning. Before people say "RNG", QQ moar, or that people are trash because the gear gods down shine on us surfs, stop and and think about your own Coil drops. They don't seem odd? Any particular drops heavily favor one role, or one role never drops? What about getting nothing (I really mean nothing) but accessories?

    As near as I can tell, here is how I think it works (I have no proof or concrete data supporting this. It's speculation):

    Drop tables seem to run off a random number generator that likely ties the equipment ID to a number (1-8, maybe higher). The generator SHOULD choose 1-8 at random and cycle through but I think that they use a repeating number algorithm and tie the same equipment ID in a repeating pattern (gear assigned to 1 is also assigned to 9). This should function properly IF IT'S CODED RIGHT. It seems to me like the logic of the coding is either imbalanced, or it's set up to have a priority list as either a ninja content gate, or because it's Square and can't math right.

    I'm all about giving devs time and I'm sure SOME of them work hard, but come on. If you can't run a staggered rolling cache clear or code drop tables right, Square either needs to rethink their vision, get new staff, or both. I'm more than willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Square, but at this point, I would LOVE to see an example of their drop table algorithm (just an example so nothing proprietary is leaked) so members can review it and look for conflicts (plus I prefer transparency from companies).

    Square; If possible, please provide an example of how the drops tables are listed and a short description of how the structure and logic is set up.

    EDIT: OH! I'm also 0/20 in Crystal Tower on Noble's Boots. Yup, that's working as intended. /sarcasm
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    Last edited by Marishi-Ten; 01-16-2014 at 04:17 AM.

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    GoToSleep's Avatar
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    Sparda Redfox
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    There's really no way to tell the loot table percentage.. Each group's luck is on gear is different, in our case we rarely get a Monk or Bard drop its the least amount of loots our group has even with the duplicates counted in total. Our group also sucks in getting accessories. We've been doing coil for 15 weeks(15 weeks of T1-T2 9 weeks of T4) and we haven't seen these drops.

    Paladin Shield
    Tank Pants
    Casting Pants
    Casting Gloves
    Casting Belt
    Monk Belt
    Monk Bracelet
    Monk Choker
    Monk Earring
    Dragoon Earring
    Dragoon Ring
    Bard Head
    Bard Chest
    Bard Belt
    Bard Pants

    And you see our group only has 1 Melee DPS which is me so I have no competition on accessories but they wont drop in our group, the Bard also has no competition yet his armor pieces wont drop so it really differs each group.
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    Last edited by GoToSleep; 01-16-2014 at 01:50 PM.

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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten View Post

    Allagan Breeches of Casting

    What are these? Theres no allagan casting pants! GTFO with these lies! There's only myth pants or melded HQ vanya. Pssssssh... this guy... allagan casting breeches....


    /crylikebaby /slitswrists /isjellyofpants
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