Just wanted to point this out...

[Peregrine]

badum tsss

I agreed with this way back when Peregrine got flamed up and down for suggesting that ARC was overpowered, and something needed to happen to balance and distinguish classes from one another, lest the game become Archer Fantasy XIV (not that it hasn't already).

Sure I can tank and do damage with my PUG, but compared to an archer? Forget about it.

If you think it's bad now, wait until the devs throw in a little stress into the game. It's already started to snowball. Two powerful jobs stay powerful. The players get bolder and bolder in testing the power of those jobs. Jobs that aren't involved try to posture that they're good in response to not getting as much attention as they used to. This comes across as lolsy to those two jobs in power, so they start to make fun of a glad's uselessness and a mrd's unreliability. The jobs in power start eliminating the jobs without power just to make a point--that those jobs have no real use.

It becomes a who'se right and who'se wrong issue, and at that point thaumaturges and archers will just pwn the other jobs and prove them wrong out of spite.

Same thing happened in XI.
The first time you get together a group of archers, it's not to spite gladiators. It's just to see how it goes.
It goes phenomenally.
The second time you get together a group of archers, it's to reproduce that success you didn't get any other way.
At this point gladiators start protesting. They start posturing that they're great and that archers suck.
At that point it's personal, and it's over.
The next archer party is just to spite that foolish gladiator for ever thinking he was useful to anyone.

Horrible things are about to happen all over again.

Again the steps are:
Imbalance is present
It isn't corrected
Players test the extent of the imbalance
And grow accustomed to its successes
Which draws protests from those not included
Fanboys of a job give favored jobs opportunity to strawman the entire unwanted job as even more unwanted.
They stop involving 2nd class jobs out of a new principle and to teach them a lesson.
The 2nd class jobs sit in town, having lost the argument that they were useful when they never had a chance.

They will say,
"I don't have anything against Gladiators, just ones that think they're useful."
"Hey I didn't make marauder gimp, I just play the game the way it's designed."

Only thing to stop that from happening is to balance the jobs.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

make positioning matter for archer and the problem is fix, i liked how in the fxi the ranger had to find the spot where his ACC and DMG output was ideal, i played like this until like lat week when a ls buddy told me that i didnt need to be so far im like what really?? thats stoopid!, after that my arc became less fun to play with

[Rentahamster]

And when we find that post from several months ago and reply to it, we get accused of necroposting.

Actually, you wouldn't.

[Drogyn]

make positioning matter for archer and the problem is fix, i liked how in the fxi the ranger had to find the spot where his ACC and DMG output was ideal, i played like this until like lat week when a ls buddy told me that i didnt need to be so far im like what really?? thats stoopid!, after that my arc became less fun to play with

I completely forgot about this, but yes... that was/is a great idea for balancing.

[Isaaru]

Wall of text from Peregrine regarding XI's history comparing it to this game when he has no clue what is being worked on for this game. Classic.

EDIT: Might as well be on topic if this thread is going to be here... I agree with the positioning for ARC it would provide a very good regulation to prevent the tanking from Archers.

[Catapult]

Yep, I was able to solo the Nest Commander as a rank 30 thaumaturge, something my Linkshell told me couldn't be done.

And it was my highest combat class at the time, so I was only using THM skills too.

/stretch

*waits for smugness to get blasted by the battle-system overhaul*

[kaboro]

Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.

Looks to me you are bothered more by what others can do, instead of being bothered by what you can not do. Least you chose your name right.

[Nikita]

I think the issues the OP has will be corrected with the coming patches, things like more definition to each weapon and what seems to be a major overhaul to the abilities for each weapon.

[Radaghast]

Any class can tank ANYTHING right now it's not just thm and arc exclusive. It's because you can sub any defensive ability possible from defender II to emulate to rampart. Casters even get deflection + aegis boon on top of that.

Toss in heals that restore anywhere from 40-70% of your health depending on job and you have ezmode fail.

[Verecund]

I would like to see something that doesn't involve Ctrl+C.