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    Just wanted to point this out...

    I hate seeing a THM or a ARCHER tanking.. Like really. A archer tanking Great Buffalo? Cooommme on. Im really hoping for this "Skillful Play" will work out. or atleast gimp THM skills and make some people cry. XD

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    well, i do see archers tanking, but only when they buff too much for a weapon skill XD otherwise i've never seen an archer tanking because they want to tank.
    As thm myself instead, we can tank easly only dodore right now, firm convinction is been adjusted from a while. I don't see the problem tanking as a mage thou, with the right setup was possible in ffxi too. Rdm o blu tanking was possible and very fun too.
    The real thing should be:
    1)tanks should be obliusly the main choise, and with the new algorithms for enmity generation incoming the problem should be solved. for damage mitigation abilities we should be ok, maybe shield should stand up a little more (and adjust animation) or maybe even be automatic.
    2)a mage could have tanking capability, sacrifing damage mitigation (aka a limited tank, maybe for weak adds) BUT it should't be an healer. Let's say, if SE will design cnj like a pure healer, it don't need tanking abilities.Else, if thm would end like a enfebleer/factotum like rdm, it could have some tanking abilities
    3)Some hybrid dd/tank as marauder (or evasion tank like pugilist) still could have room BUT pure damage dealers like archer should be totally uncapable of tanking. Not saying they should be oneshotted at the first aoe, but they should' be allowed to tank anything serius
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    I would like to see something that doesn't involve Ctrl+C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennvy View Post
    I hate seeing a THM or a ARCHER tanking.. Like really. A archer tanking Great Buffalo? Cooommme on. Im really hoping for this "Skillful Play" will work out. or atleast gimp THM skills and make some people cry. XD

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    Why do you hate it so bad? Why do you care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Why do you hate it so bad? Why do you care?
    Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennvy View Post
    Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.
    For the fight you're talking about we used an ARC because that is what we had in the group. I'm of the opinion that if it works, use it. Who cares if the strategy is used by everyone else on the server or not. If an arc can tank successfully, let them do it.

    Let's say you're in a bar fight with a bigger dude, like really big.Would you only use your fists because that's what's fair? I wouldn't. I'm picking up anything that's not nailed down, because that's how I'll win. Same strategy here.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 06-14-2011 at 01:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    For the fight you're talking about we used an ARC because that is what we had in the group. I'm of the opinion that if it works, use it. Who cares if the strategy is used by everyone else on the server or not. If an arc can tank successfully, let them do it.

    Let's say you're in a bar fight with a bigger dude, like really big.Would you only use your fists because that's what's fair? I wouldn't. I'm picking up anything that's not nailed down, because that's how I'll win. Same strategy here.
    Hiya Molly!

    It was your team we noticed doing this. Our gld was bummed by it -- asking what's the point of his class if an archer can tank with THM abilities. I dont think anyone was criticizing your folks from doing it as it does work...moreso that it can be done in the first place.

    Definitely some balance issues to work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogyn View Post
    Hiya Molly!

    It was your team we noticed doing this. Our gld was bummed by it -- asking what's the point of his class if an archer can tank with THM abilities. I dont think anyone was criticizing your folks from doing it as it does work...moreso that it can be done in the first place.

    Definitely some balance issues to work out.
    His class is there to make me some rings, of course. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ennvy View Post
    Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.
    Looks to me you are bothered more by what others can do, instead of being bothered by what you can not do. Least you chose your name right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboro View Post
    Looks to me you are bothered more by what others can do, instead of being bothered by what you can not do. Least you chose your name right.
    There it is, ladies and gents. The "you jelly" argument from overpowered classes. Another check box in the slide to ridiculous caste system checked.

    Gladiators have every right to say what the ****.
    Archer fanboys use the glass cannon argument to justify why they should keep their overpowered offense.
    Aaaaaand then go tank the great buffalo.

    They're lying through their teeth to keep their broken job intact. Glass cannon my ass.

    Gladiators SHOULD say hell no.
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    Last edited by Peregrine; 06-15-2011 at 12:42 AM.

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