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  1. #1261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Migosha View Post
    The thing is that 472 ACC may be already too high. We need more data, but for the moment Ayvar parsed T5 with 466 ACC with a few misses and with 467 for no misses. At 467 the BiS list is slightly different (you end with 470 ACC with that list), not a lot of changes but still different.
    The person i quoted from page 119 or something had a few misses at 472 accuracy on both Twintania and Asclepius and he had a much longer parse, Ayvar may have just been lucky with his shorter parse time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopcornDinosaur View Post
    Can anyone shed light on the ideal way to rotate cool-downs after the initial cool-down dump ?
    Just what I do, my dps seems to be good.

    Leg Sweep : ASAP, it comes back so quickly, you're probably going to have it for any burn phase anyway
    Mercy Stroke : ASAP (maybe smarter to save for burn phases, but I keep mine macroed to other abilities, coz I use a controller and buttons are scarce)
    Life Surge : I like to have at least one buff up so I get a warm and fuzzy feeling when Full Thrust hits for 1k+
    Jump & Power Surge : If I see that Power Surge is about to become available, I'll wait. Don't forget that you can use it with other jumps, too. Basically, get the Power Surge out as soon as possible by any means. I guess the order of preference is Jump > DFD > SSD, depending whether you wanna save DFD for AOE or whatever
    Internal Release & Blood for Blood : I think I've done my highest DPS just using them as soon as possible, they should last long enough to roll over an IDC combo in any scenario
    Spineshatter Dive / Dragonfire Fire : I try to spam these, but with the intention of having them available for burn phases (dreadnaughts in T4, conflags, etc). You'll just have to spam them at first to get a feel for when they'll come back up throughout particular fights. Or just save them if you really need the burn damage.
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  3. #1263
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    The person i quoted from page 119 or something had a few misses at 472 accuracy on both Twintania and Asclepius and he had a much longer parse, Ayvar may have just been lucky with his shorter parse time.
    Precisely. This is the first time I've seen parsed misses at 472 accuracy.
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    For the lolz:

    Belt stat weights
    Direwolf Belt of Maiming (ilvl90 PVP belt) - 16.553
    Onion Tassets (CT belt) - 16.07
    Hero's Belt (Myth belt) - 15.024 (+16 accuracy)
    Allagan Tassets of Maiming - No, just no.

    ilvl90 PVP belt, albeit hard to get/use, seems to be best if you don't need the accuracy.

    I wonder if there are any other examples like this.

    Edit: No, this is the only instance in which a PVP item outweighs a PVE item.

    Belt is just a funny slot for Dragoon..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    The person i quoted from page 119 or something had a few misses at 472 accuracy on both Twintania and Asclepius and he had a much longer parse, Ayvar may have just been lucky with his shorter parse time.
    That is the person that I wanted to see individual breakdowns from because the fact that he misses at 472 and no one else does is weird. As I pointed out, I've missed at 474 by jerkin around with RoT, I didn't miss any mob that I intended to hit with it, but still got a miss % from it. Until I see a separated, by attack, parse that has misses at 472, I will personally keep viewing that as the maximum needed; and as more 100% parses come in for the lower #'s like 467-470 they will keep gaining more weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    The person i quoted from page 119 or something had a few misses at 472 accuracy on both Twintania and Asclepius and he had a much longer parse, Ayvar may have just been lucky with his shorter parse time.
    As Peptaru said above, if you're posting parses with misses we'd like to see an ability breakdown so we can see where those misses occurred.

    Also I did post an 81min parse @ 473 with no misses, so I've had two posted so far, one at 473 and one at 467 (38min), both with 0% misses. We also had a couple other parses around 472, I'd have to dig them out I think one was 476, that showed 0% misses over about 20-40min. We've had one parse at 472 that did show misses, but no breakdown of what abilities those misses occurred on so it could've been caused by AE.
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    Error 3102, 90000, 1017, 2002, 2/3 survivor

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    468 ACC. I'll continue to try and slowly bump it up and continue running.
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    with a 100% hit rate on skills and 99.84% on auto attacks , 468 does seems like a good acc to aim for.

    -edit-

    those are some really huge crits ... 2.8k full thrusts ~_~


    Quote Originally Posted by Inkmouse View Post

    468 ACC. I'll continue to try and slowly bump it up and continue running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopcornDinosaur View Post
    those are some really huge crits ... 2.8k full thrusts ~_~
    damage buff on the snake
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    Error 3102, 90000, 1017, 2002, 2/3 survivor

  10. #1270
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    Now the question im sure has either been answered or deemed impossible but how exactly would you set this up on a ps3 controller?
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