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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Sounds like you got plenty of time to waste lol

    You can run coil too for i90 pieces. The game is meant to be played over years, not weeks or months.

    What would keep a player interested for years if there isn't a continual progression? If the game never changes and always remains the same there will be many people who play for a few months and then become bored with the game and cancel subscription. This has happened to many other mmo's. It is replies like the last two I got that seriously make me want to cancel my subscription. There is no need to be smug in replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordfurious View Post
    What would keep a player interested for years if there isn't a continual progression?
    Except its been out officially, for what, 4 months? There has only been one major patch, and the next one is around the corner. Seems like SE doing an OK job at adding new content. Pinworms' suggestion is good, though I could only add that maybe you should focus on one or 2 jobs. Gearing one class in complete CT (particularly tank, and maybe DPS) you will not have enough accuracy for coil. So it would kind of be a waste to completely gear a tank that you can't run in some content. I think some people had said the same thing about Allagan loot from coil, they couldn't wear it in coil because of accuracy. Obviously whatever content you are running will dictate, but the best gear sets are mixed pieces of myth/allagan/ct.
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    Would be nice if it stuck to the 1 need roll a week, but the greed roll reset daily. Would also keep you from being screwed for the week if you didn't pass in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    Would be nice if it stuck to the 1 need roll a week, but the greed roll reset daily. Would also keep you from being screwed for the week if you didn't pass in time.
    But it would allow 8 man pre mades to farm for full gear sets in a less than a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    But it would allow 8 man pre mades to farm for full gear sets in a less than a week.
    And the amount of people who actually do full 8 man pre-mades and farm ct are probably a faaar smaller % than the rest of the population who would benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    And the amount of people who actually do full 8 man pre-mades and farm ct are probably a faaar smaller % than the rest of the population who would benefit.
    Disagree. It would also allow anyone to farm a complete gear sets in a week (if you have a lot of free time). Gear progression isn't supposed to work that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Disagree. It would also allow anyone to farm a complete gear sets in a week (if you have a lot of free time). Gear progression isn't supposed to work that way.
    Why not? A lucky tank could go into coil and leave with...

    Body, Neck; Belt Legs; Hands; Wrists. Just off the 4 really easy turns. Just as many pieces as each CT set has.

    And its not at all uncommon for all teh drops for a single class to go to a single player in a static.

    That same week spend their myth on a helm to go with the body and boots from ct for the legs and poof. Full i90/i80 right side in a week where you started in darklight.


    Note: I have seen this scenario play out for a blm where they got all possible drops in 1-4 in a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Disagree. It would also allow anyone to farm a complete gear sets in a week (if you have a lot of free time). Gear progression isn't supposed to work that way.
    Why not though?

    There is no open world PvP, there is no trading of ilvl 90 stuff (since it's all unique/untradeable).

    If someone wants to insanely run Coil and CT over and over and over again... why shouldn't they be able too?

    Personally, I wouldn't do this, but, if someone wanted too? Why not? Who are they hurting?

    (If, in the future, SE does implement open world PvP and/or tradeable BiS items I will retract my viewpoint on this.)

    Right now though... what is SE really trying to prevent, outside of players spending more time in-game playing through content?


    I say let the maniacs spend 40-50 hours a week running through the same raid over and over again if they want.

    Outside of seeing them running around in their gear, it doesn't impact me in any way.


    You can say PvP would become unbalanced... but how? You can only play as one class at the same time. Having 5 classes with all ilvl 90 stuff doesn't give someone an edge over a player who focused on getting one class to ilvl 90.


    EDIT: Someone in another thread about the same topic said, "the cap is to prevent hardcore players from having a huge gap over newcomers".

    I would argue that the cap has the opposite effect. It basically ensures that newcomers will be "x" amount of pieces/loot behind "hardcores/OG's", until such time that the cap is lifted.

    I think that's kind of counterintuitive. Why cripple recent players in that regard and basically tell them, "no matter how many hours you put into the game... you will be unable to surpass someone who started a month before you, because of artificial caps that we placed into the game"?


    Meh, I'm not losing any sleep over any of this. It's just puzzling to me.
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    Last edited by OSUBuckeye4; 01-16-2014 at 04:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Gearing one class in complete CT (particularly tank, and maybe DPS) you will not have enough accuracy for coil.
    I was never suggesting gearing completely in ct gear, buth rather myth gear, which is currently top teir.
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