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    Do you want Lock outs.... or do you want 1% drop rates.... ? Id much rather log in, do the content I want, and progress in some way, then do something else i want to progress, and move on. I dont enjoy doing the same exact thing for 6 months every SINGLE day, and STILL not have the drop i want. You dont want lock outs? then prepare to have the drop rates of chests filled with 9 diff items at the % of the Nightmare mount... But then ppl with moan about that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    Do you want Lock outs.... or do you want 1% drop rates.... ? Id much rather log in, do the content I want, and progress in some way, then do something else i want to progress, and move on. I dont enjoy doing the same exact thing for 6 months every SINGLE day, and STILL not have the drop i want. You dont want lock outs? then prepare to have the drop rates of chests filled with 9 diff items at the % of the Nightmare mount... But then ppl with moan about that too.
    coil says hello
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    coil says hello
    No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Youre STILL getting 8 actually real gear drops every single week.

    Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\
    Try doing Salvage 7 days a week, and no drop for ANYONE in 3 months...

    It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.
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    Last edited by RoninDarkchild; 01-13-2014 at 06:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\

    It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.
    yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Blaming the drop mismatch on your unwillingness to gear up multiple classes is... kind of petty, don't you think?

    The drop falling to the ground because "everybody" who can use it already has, is still very uncommon, relatively speaking.
    uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.
    Now imagine if the gear itself was only 1-5% drop rate and you were doing coil every single day and 6 months later you had nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?
    Yes, which means if everyone has every class, everybody gains an average of 1 drop a week. If someone doesn't get a drop, someone else is getting 2.
    It averages out to 1 per person, per week.

    Based on your argument that coil should be repeatable, you would be looking at the rebalancing of this mechanic causing the current 100% droprate being reduced, probably significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Yes, which means if everyone has every class, everybody gains an average of 1 drop a week. If someone doesn't get a drop, someone else is getting 2.
    It averages out to 1 per person, per week.
    oookay then. if u guys think that lockouts are good for the game then i guess more power to u. personally i think its just a weak mechanic put into the game and under utilizes the ability of being able to level every class. i have 7 other classes with just i70 equips for the past 3 months. so much for being able to play as everything on one character eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    oookay then. if u guys think that lockouts are good for the game then i guess more power to u. personally i think its just a weak mechanic put into the game and under utilizes the ability of being able to level every class. i have 7 other classes with just i70 equips for the past 3 months. so much for being able to play as everything on one character eh?
    So you are judging this based on 2 raids that both provide you with the average of 1 drop a week as barring you from content?

    You know, let's ignore for a moment, the fact that you can get (on average) 2 items a week from raids, and an average of another item a week from mythology tomes.

    Seeing that a competent player can do pretty much anything in 2.1 using only philosophy-purchased gear(darklight, crafted i70, relic) and infinite droprate content (ulima HM, EX primal accessories), your point is moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Youre STILL getting 8 actually real gear drops every single week.

    Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\
    Try doing Salvage 7 days a week, and no drop for ANYONE in 3 months...

    It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.
    /shudders
    I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
    ...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
    Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 01-13-2014 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    /shudders
    I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
    ...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
    Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;
    In 10 years of killing Tiamat off and on, I never once witnessed first hand those shoes dropping. Only that damn Fire Crystal! lol And only saw a Ridill drop once in all that time. No wonder people were fooled into thinking the content was ENDLESS!!! You were doing the same fight 5 years later XD
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