An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Eekiki]

Friday Legacy housing prices drop by 12.5%, the second of many steps of the "Legacy World price plummet" program, but later in January prices across all worlds will be "re-evaluated". This is where we will see how much SE wants more sales. The few sold may make them lower pricing significantly, though they also don't want a rush of purchases that will overload capacity.

Shh...this is "not relevant" according to the whiners in this thread.

not going to read 159 pages of posts that can be summarized as "please give us cheaper houses, we don't wanna waste time over this"

Except the "highly rated" (as if that means something) posters have carefully spun their words so they could claim that isn't what they're saying even though it obviously is.

The OP (with over 700 likes) expressed disappointment he wouldn't be in a house by Christmas (~2 weeks).

What the OP didn't tell you is that he is the one and only person in his FC, and that's his main beef. He is upset because he can't get a FC house all by himself.

But... what's a fair price? Yoshi-P says the game can provide ~17k/day. Let's say 4 days a week is a fair expectation for most active players. That's 272k/month. I say players shouldn't give 100% to the cause, and of course they have individual expenses (repair, gear upgrade, etc.), so call it 50% to the FC.

That 17k estimate was only taking daily quests and duty roulette bonuses into consideration. In my experience, the amount of gil you get from doing that stuff is considerably higher (I generally end up with over 30k if I run all my roulettes as the in-demand role). But that doesn't take into account things like treasure hunts. A group of 8 people, presumably from the same FC, and each with a peisteskin map, can bring in a substantial amount of gil with every character earning over 1,000 gil for each chest (and on some occasions over 5,000). Multiply that amount by 64 and you can see it's not much trouble for a single person to earn over 100,000 gil every day without even touching the market boards if they have a group of dedicated friends to work with. And if you don't have a group of dedicated friends, no amount of game redesigning is going to fix that.

They have all of the information they need and have had time to properly prepare their servers.

If only it was as simple as "preparing their servers"...

[ArkhamNative]

The OP (with over 700 likes) expressed disappointment he wouldn't be in a house by Christmas (~2 weeks). So I can see where some people would assume the thread is about "give us our house now". In actuality, it's less about "whiners" and "white knights" than all that.

The gist of the thread is that housing prices were set too high. And within 2.5 days (on Dec 17), Yoshi-P himself responded (with over 200 likes) to say yes, that is correct, that prices were set high to prevent rapid purchases and will be coming down (faster than the slow ticking 6-hour price decreases of 0.14%). 10 days later SE posted they they will be slicing half a zero (divide by 5) off of the highest legacy world pricing. And by the 3 month countdown, it will be a full zero sliced off those housing prices. So many may think there's not much left to argue about.

But... what's a fair price? Yoshi-P says the game can provide ~17k/day. Let's say 4 days a week is a fair expectation for most active players. That's 272k/month. I say players shouldn't give 100% to the cause, and of course they have individual expenses (repair, gear upgrade, etc.), so call it 50% to the FC. Roughly estimating, I say houses are currently sized for 15/50/100 people. Multiply to get 2M/7M/14M gil earned in a month for S/M/L housing.

Even at 2 months that's not enough for the 5M/20M/66M that the cheapest S/M/L prices will have ticked down to. (Does SE price houses for 20/80/250 member FCs?) Finally, I would say housing is worth maybe 1.5 months of work. So that would put the 6-week prices at 3M/10M/20M. If SE continues with their 3-month countdown scheme, that makes housing start at about half of group 3 pricing. That would be starting prices of 4M/14M/28M that trickled down to half that over 3 months. That seems fair based on the amounts of gil the game doles out.

TL;DR: 4M/14M/28M.