Summoners have actually ruined this game's PvP

[Djlovedrop]

Based on my Scholar yes they can achieve that number If they max meld Mind. Its not a lot considering a BLM with low Mind could Max mind and Physicks for 550-600. ACN has higher base mind..

161 mind heals for 365. 400 mind heals for 875.

So adding FULL mind meld would be around 310-320 mind. Then if you so perhaps have to change ur 30 int to 30 mind. making it 340-350.

So yes you can heal pretty decent but is that worth losing 30 int, 73 dtm 74 crit as a smn? I dont think its worth at all, but thats my opinion

EDIT: and if you want to add food thats another 16 dtm and 10 crit

[TaneshimaPopura]

Never said it was worth it for SMNs. Just that with 300+ Mind you can heal for around 550-600, not sure if SMNs can sustain the MP drain but it is no problem for BLMs. BTW Lvl 40 leveling gear was already doing 450 Physicks on my BLM... you know those gear with Mind and Int... Full set of them. When your healer is locked down, I do think that off-healing helps alot and as a BLM able to Aetherial Manipulate around and hide behind pillars to heal self after a full 30 seconds of train is really helpful.

[Djlovedrop]

As a blm...why not just sleep them instead of healing?

[Nachie]

That would be too smart to do for most BLMs.

[TaneshimaPopura]

Sleep can be in DR too... I don't know about you guys but me playing in Japanese Datacentres they are always ahead of me in Latency. For the most part I WILL receive a range attack 1 second after I make the corner cut LoS. Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm playing BLM without any PvP skill at the moment but even if I were to hit Rank 30 I doubt I'd be taking Nightwing either. Cause I've manage to sleep targets well enough without it and ground target spell is a real pain the the butt to apply on the move evidently when I'm trying to Quickcast Freeze on the move.

[Nachie]

Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm playing BLM without any PvP skill at the moment but even if I were to hit Rank 30 I doubt I'd be taking Nightwing either. .

Whatever you say here after is now null and void. Thank you for playing.

[Djlovedrop]

Whatever you say here after is now null and void. Thank you for playing.

You.......beat me.....to it

[Djlovedrop]

Also, Its easy to avoid summoner's burst as a healer.

[Nachie]

Except they have countless "bursts" opportunities. But we'll see when I use a piece of pvp gear <3.

[LongNu]

Every day I see more and more SMN in games, less of all others, more bots, more 3 man teams, and less variety in team comps. If you join a game without a SMN on your team but you can see a SMN on theirs through the gate, your chances of winning instantly plummet. This is absolutely killing PvP for me and it will only get worse unless 2.15 happens FAST. I'd have to guess that 80% of the teams I face now have at least one SMN.

This is my major gripe. We all know the class is overpowered, but now it's just ruining the game's variety. No composition is complete without a Summoner.