The video to the content is the same as the solution to the exam. Which school that you go to to hand you the solution before you take the exam?
Not really . Have you never watched a video in school then have a quiz on the video you just watched ? Watching the video shows you what to watch for and what to expect but putting that into practice is different . Its like saying your a surgeon ? have you preformed a surgery before ? No but i read a lot of books and watched a video .
And I hate people like you, who get placed with randoms and expect 100% win and no one new to a fight. Lotsa haterade going around today.
I've watched videos on all the content I've yet to do (ex primals, coil etc) but I would still be a gigantic liability because I'm new. You actually expect people to waste 20 mins or more, watching those vids, taking notes trying to memorize it all when they could spend five minutes actually in the fight and get the same understanding from it? And there is literally no battle in this game that can't be explained to a specific role in just a few lines of text. If you can't explain a fight to a newb, you're even more lazy and bad than someone who doesn't/can't watch a vid imo. That kind of attitude is why people like to say MMO communities are so 'toxic'.
Last edited by Amyas; 01-06-2014 at 05:37 AM.
Yep.
Being not so smart:
"Oh are those plumes? They must do nothing *stands in it*"
Why did I die? D:
"Oh..Ifrit looks like he's about to dash across where I am? *Runs at Ifrit* have at you!"
Why did I die? D:
There truly is a difference between "wanting to not ruin my experience" and using common sense and knowing you should probably avoid ground AoEs...a fire god dashing in your direction..to get out of dodge. Sadly, people use "being new/don't want to ruin experience" as an excuse for playing badly :\
I think the best solution is to find a party that shares your ideal. And remember that Duty Finder is mostly filled with people that want to beat content in one run. If you're taking a trial and error approach, it's going to frustrate others, which spoils their experience.
It's a group effort after all.
Hm, here's the biggest misconception - watching videos, you'll know at least x mechanic does y, even if you're new don't use it as an excuse "Oh I didn't know if I got hit by a GIANT LASER that I would die." Falls right back into common sense, even SE color codes AoEs - Red AoE = Get out of dodge, Green AoE around NPC ally = friendly AoE won't hurt you. Garuda Extreme, Spiny Plume let's just say, while you naturally kill all plumes, you stated you watched videos before yeah? So why would you suddenly not use common sense and destroy it before you should despite knowing you shouldn't?
You're only a liability if you choose to be by playing badly and not using common sense, that's as bluntly as I can put it.
If you make your own party and request people have watched the video or have experience then that's fine. But you can't force people on Duty Finder to do the same.
Why should they give up their first time experience so you can get a first time win? If you expect Pros in DF then you're being stupid. The majority of people are doing it for the first time hence why they use DF.
Don't use DF if you're not prepared for that.
Exactly. I really have to see the fight before I get it down. For example, did my first two CT runs yesterday. On the last boss when he cast his green windy stuff, for the life of me, I kept getting hit. Until I saw a vague wind area I will know to avoid in the future. However, people are too frickin' impatient and start raging at the slightest of mistakes.A little research before "some" fights wouldn't hurt...but in my experience people learn more actually DOING a fight even if they did watch a vid on it. Most people walk away from it with some knowledge of what to do even if they didn't succeed, and the bittersweet victory if they did after a few wipes if they pick up on things fast. All of that said, your frustration is at the very least somewhat justified. The biggest problem though is the lack of patience that people have for those learning what they need to do.
Well the boss mechanics are the problems you are supposed to solved. Once you watch the video you already have the solution (Boss A will do this and that, player B should do this and that). Then the next step is just execution. Knowing the encounter beforehand trivialize the problem-solving part.Not really . Have you never watched a video in school then have a quiz on the video you just watched ? Watching the video shows you what to watch for and what to expect but putting that into practice is different . Its like saying your a surgeon ? have you preformed a surgery before ? No but i read a lot of books and watched a video .
I am sure everyone who ever got hit by an AoE just did it on purpose. Stood there, for the lulz, right? It wasn't a human mistake, or they weren't surprised, or there wasn't lag or anything? Nah, they just do it to be a bunch of meanies. Yep.Yep.
Being not so smart:
"Oh are those plumes? They must do nothing *stands in it*"
Why did I die? D:
"Oh..Ifrit looks like he's about to dash across where I am? *Runs at Ifrit* have at you!"
Why did I die? D:
There truly is a difference between "wanting to not ruin my experience" and using common sense and knowing you should probably avoid ground AoEs...a fire god dashing in your direction..to get out of dodge. Sadly, people use "being new/don't want to ruin experience" as an excuse for playing badly :\
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