FFXIV: Different and Unique

[Mack]

Wow man you wanna grab a beer and watch my miami heat get killed? my wife is making subs!
We are on the same page dude, this says it all!

Lol I'm starving so subs and beer sounds awesome

[kukurumei]

Isn't it tradition for every final fantasy game to have a complete unique experience from one another? Like different battle systems/stories/environment etc? I believe that was what FFXIV was trying to accomplish and failed.

Actually no..it's not. FF games actually are similar to another in many ways, just not a direct expansion. I.E: engine reuse

FF11 and FF12 are the greatest near brothers, as FF1-FF4 barely changed back in those days and quite similar FF 6 and FF9, FF7-FF8, etc. The projects end up like that due to who gets put in charge and what seems popular, etc.

Even FF spirit within...you can see a lot of resembles to FF8 of due to their staff.

Messing with success is never something to take lightly. Being forced to mess with success can be disastrous as we see in hindsight.

[Tiny]

Actually no..it's not. FF games actually are similar to another in many ways, just not a direct expansion. I.E: engine reuse

FF11 and FF12 are the greatest near brothers, as FF1-FF4 barely changed back in those days and quite similar FF 6 and FF9, FF7-FF8, etc. The projects end up like that due to who gets put in charge and what seems popular, etc.

Even FF spirit within...you can see a lot of resembles to FF8 of due to their staff.

Messing with success is never something to take lightly. Being forced to mess with success can be disastrous as we see in hindsight.

hmm true, I agree I hope FFXIV do take many great things from FFXI but still keep its uniqueness that makes it stand out from other FF games as well as any other MMORPG in general.

[Valhinjin]

People who want an AH are lazy. People who want auto-attack are poor players who don't understand the combat system. People who want "jump" are clueless. People who say there is nothing to do are the ones standing around in camps waiting on behests, or have way too much time on their hands to level every job to 50. People who say the world is too small never explore it. People complaining about the UI are most likely the ones crying about other games being WoW clones, and then demanding WoW features in every game they play. People who want PvP are playing the wrong IP. People need to explore, learn new techniques, study the game, and create enjoyable experiences with their friends.

My LS does stuff all the time. We do SP parties just like FFXI (but better) between Behests. We do leves waiting for our camping spots to respawn to full. We work on crafting when we are by ourselves. We do the story at a pace so we always have some filler content while leveling.

I love this game. It is unique. It's beautiful. The only things it needs are: more max level content, examination of a better travel system (not game breaking), and some technical tweeks. We do not need: a new combat system, a different UI, PvP, jumping, and an AH.

They could, and should be charging subs for this game. I want to support its development in any way I can.

[Shikyo]

hmm true, I agree I hope FFXIV do take many great things from FFXI but still keep its uniqueness that makes it stand out from other FF games as well as any other MMORPG in general.

I'm not asking for a direct exact copy, no XI fan is asking for that trust me.
Take the basics of whats there that is great and has been loved for 10 years and improve on it add a little slap ya momma seasoning, some hot sauce, a squeez of lemon, mix in some real final fantasy classes, toss that bad boy in the oven and bam FFXIV its whats for dinner!
I for one would love it!

[Tiny]

I'm not asking for a direct exact copy, no XI fan is asking for that trust me.
Take the basics of whats there that is great and has been loved for 10 years and improve on it add a little slap ya momma seasoning, some hot sauce, a squeez of lemon, mix in some real final fantasy classes, toss that bad boy in the oven and bam FFXIV its whats for dinner!
I for one would love it!

Haha yea I would love that too! Considering how majority players of this game are FFXI fans, many features should transfer over.

[Valhinjin]

OK maybe I'm wrong so go ahead and tell me what stands out to you as "unique" about this game? maybe I am legitimately wrong, I'm not trying to mock you or anything, but If unique means daily repeatable quests that are more a hindrance to fun that straight out grinding then I don't want unique. If unique means that entire zones outside the city walls is equivalent to a pre-level 10 zone in every other MMO in existence then I don't want unique. If unique means large maps that are a bore to look at and explore then I don't want unique. What is unique exactly? is it the crafting system? sure its nice but its nothing special and it has been done to some degree in the same way in other games like Everquest I believe...and considering this game isn't a crafting game, I don't want unique. If by unique you mean it has the most beautiful graphics of any MMO, sure but at what expense?

So what is unique about this game exactly? and in your opinion where has the dev team taken this game? all I see are patches inducing shallow quests that are even more boring, shallow mobs they called NMs although they are hardly notorious since we see them more often than their "placeholders" and instanced dungeons are on the way...nothing unique and the game is turning into your typical run of the mill MMO imo. Maybe you see things differently and its not like I want this for this game but this is exactly all I see.

And please don't tell me that the Market Wards are unique, they are the most retarded idea to date.

Sure some of it has been done in other FF IPs, but most of the game is unique to MMOs. And by the way, because you don't like something doesn't make it any less unique.

1. If you think the maps don't change then you haven't explored them. Simple as that.
2. The menu system and UI is unique, like it or not.
3. The stamina/tp based combat system is unique.
3. Market Wards are unique. Yeah, you've stated that you "hate" them, doesn't make the not unique. What's so bad about them? since they got the searchable interface they are the same as an Auction House. People still demanding an AH... I don't get it. Seriously someone explain what's wrong with the Wards.
4. The job/class system is unique. Being able to import skills, and mix and match abilities is a very good concept.
5. The storylines are all unique, and they are different for every starting zone.
6. The LS system is unique, way better than guilds. Ability to swap LS is nice and carry multiples is great.
7. Travel and anima system is unique. Causing you to set favored locations and traveling with intention. People demanding Airships and mounts really need to look into their organizational/time management skills.
8. Guild leve system (like it or not) is unique. Trading in for higher rewards, leve-linking with friends...
9. Crafting system is very unique.
10. Gathering system is also unique.
11. Class archetypes are unique (Land, Hand, and War & Magic). You can have a complete game experience and never lift a sword.

There are more items, but "I'm tired of appeasing your questions. It sounds to me like you just don't like the game, or don't have any in-game friends to make it an enjoyable experience. All of the things above are turning into cookie-cutter MMO BS because of whiners like you demanding more of the same.

The game as all of the components to be something great, which I'm sure won't be for everyone. But seriously come to terms with yourself, quit a game before you try to hack it to pieces and demand that it change, just so you can go back to WoW in the end.

[Shikyo]

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.].

The shortcomings of this game is the reason its failing and the reason they created a forum for ppl to say what they like and dont and what they would like to see done about thoes things.

Thoes that think like you are very very few doesnt think this game is made of fail like the last dude in a 100 man gbng line, look at the dwindling numbers in your ls, idk what server you play on where you are from or anything but its easy to guess that its the same across the boards. So that whole little fairy tale you wrote was a bunch of BS.

Very very few feel the way you do about this game i'm fine with that.

Again what I dont understand is why ppl who love this game bother with the forums at all you could be crafting right now, because for better or worse it may take about a year or 3 to make the 1st step, but SE claims there gonna change the game.
So wouldnt It be smart to not bother with us idiots that dont love this fabtastic 1337wootalicious original revolutionary game.
So you can enjoy it as much as possible before they change it?

The forums are here because SE knows the game failed and asked the fans what they thought, so i think ppl have the right to sing if handed a mic and asked to.

PS. READ homegirl, in previous post you can see that we said FFXI fans DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY WoW ASPECTS IN XIV
I HATE WOW!

[Azurus]

Sure some of it has been done in other FF IPs, but most of the game is unique to MMOs. And by the way, because you don't like something doesn't make it any less unique.

1. If you think the maps don't change then you haven't explored them. Simple as that.
2. The menu system and UI is unique, like it or not.
3. The stamina/tp based combat system is unique.
3. Market Wards are unique. Yeah, you've stated that you "hate" them, doesn't make the not unique. What's so bad about them? since they got the searchable interface they are the same as an Auction House. People still demanding an AH... I don't get it. Seriously someone explain what's wrong with the Wards.
4. The job/class system is unique. Being able to import skills, and mix and match abilities is a very good concept.
5. The storylines are all unique, and they are different for every starting zone.
6. The LS system is unique, way better than guilds. Ability to swap LS is nice and carry multiples is great.
7. Travel and anima system is unique. Causing you to set favored locations and traveling with intention. People demanding Airships and mounts really need to look into their organizational/time management skills.
8. Guild leve system (like it or not) is unique. Trading in for higher rewards, leve-linking with friends...
9. Crafting system is very unique.
10. Gathering system is also unique.
11. Class archetypes are unique (Land, Hand, and War & Magic). You can have a complete game experience and never lift a sword.

There are more items, but "I'm tired of appeasing your questions. It sounds to me like you just don't like the game, or don't have any in-game friends to make it an enjoyable experience. All of the things above are turning into cookie-cutter MMO BS because of whiners like you demanding more of the same.

The game as all of the components to be something great, which I'm sure won't be for everyone. But seriously come to terms with yourself, quit a game before you try to hack it to pieces and demand that it change, just so you can go back to WoW in the end.

ok

1. You should not have to explore every nook and cranny of a huge region to find a couple unique spots.
2. The menu system and UI is not unique. It is a very standard console game layout UI that does not work well with mmos as it causes you to have to click and skim menus too often to every little thing.
3. Market wards are semi unique. They are just rolanmart thrown in to an instance. Think about what is going to happen if this game does become a success? crammed wards anyone?
4.The job system will be unique as soon as the classes get some uniquness. right now you just have magic users and non magic users that can share everyones skills. Noone likes to be the same as everyone else. And if you think you are totally free to mix and match your wrong. There is already abilities and whatnot you must have according to people to be effective.
5.The storylines are uninspired and not fun and they all converge at rank 20 so not really unique either. every nation has essentially the same storyline post 20.
6. LS system is the exact same as guilds so idk what you really mean by better. the only unique thing is that you can carry more then one. Good luck trying to kick or invite anyone though, LS have absolutely no administrative options right now. XI had better LSs for god sake.
7. Maybe people would like to do what you said in point 1 and explore a little? instead of mindlessly teleport all over the place? And hell chocobos are one of the things that make FF games unique along with airships so please stop on this if you dont want these to happen.
8.leves are inconvenient quests given at a single quest hub that limits your ability to really enjoy moving to new areas. They also cause camps to be unlively with the only thing being needed there is the crystal and maybe a few npcs to hand in locals.
9.you pull out a tool and hit standard synth 8 times? Unique in its inconvenience.
10. I like gathering sort of so ill just let you have that one.
11. and now this....the class archetypes are the exact same out of any mmo, you have tank classes, melee dps, ranged dps and magic users. The only unique thing is that you can mix and match skills which takes away from the class uniqueness. so 1-1+0 so by that law i say not unique since it creates uniqueness and destroys it at the same time.

i did not want to type this much at all but i will further argue any point on here cause your post struck a cord with me that doesnt happen often.

[Shikyo]

Reading MRS. V's post jeebus girl you have to be SE's biggest Sackrider.... This game must have busted your mmorpg cheri... or you work for SE. get a laugh before it gets erased.. Its like every single thing she listed was the biggest crock ever, or she could be the sarcasm queen and i just completely let that one wiz by =/