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  1. #11
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    Truefaith87's Avatar
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    Tama Seiryu
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    I was fully composed, reading this to find out info i did not know yet.. until i got to the last titan note. Then i lost it and busted out laughing.
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    Monk Norris
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    when tanking Garuda + Suparna is her Wicked Wheel combo based on time or damage of some sort? They both kept using Wicked Wheel right before her teleporting and kept 1 shotting me because i was unprepared and couldnt time it right
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  3. #13
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    Avalon Albrook
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    I've now done enough successful Garuda runs to say that I have no effing clue on earth how to predict Wicked Whirl when I've got her and Suprana pulled. They'll do them separately on me, they'll do them together, they'll wait until after porting, they'll do it just before porting, they'll apparently not do it at all until just before Suprana's dead and then boom double wicked whirl... I have no clue what triggers it from either and I've given up trying to figure it out. I just keep all cooldowns saved for when I've got both pulled and cycle through them as overlaps and hope to hell for the best.
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  4. #14
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    For Garuda EX I think it might be easiest to pull Suprana the first phase with Garuda and Chidra and Garuda during the twisters. Chidra and Garuda do much less damage together and are very predictable for Wicked Wheel.
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  5. #15
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    Bokchoy Mcnuggets
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon_Albrook View Post
    I've now done enough successful Garuda runs to say that I have no effing clue on earth how to predict Wicked Whirl when I've got her and Suprana pulled. They'll do them separately on me, they'll do them together, they'll wait until after porting, they'll do it just before porting, they'll apparently not do it at all until just before Suprana's dead and then boom double wicked whirl... I have no clue what triggers it from either and I've given up trying to figure it out. I just keep all cooldowns saved for when I've got both pulled and cycle through them as overlaps and hope to hell for the best.
    Hmm, that's strange. They've been happening at around the same time for me. I wonder if it's a DPS thing because the DPS is pretty consistent in the groups I run with.

    In any case, you only need to predict them within a 15-20 second window, depending on what tanking class you are and which defensive CD you're using.
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  6. #16
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    IskarJarak's Avatar
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    Iskar Jarak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asdamine View Post
    If I might add, it helps to dodge slipstream if the Tank focus target either Garuda or Suprana (shift+F) so you would know when they are casting. Most of the time the cast animation is being covered by the awesome graphical effects of the fight, makig you miss the dodge.
    I always focus Garuda when they are up for this reason and I find it really helps. Your tip should be added to the top I think :P It also helps for calling out frictions...
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  7. #17
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    Faeon Nightwhisper
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by IskarJarak View Post
    I always focus Garuda when they are up for this reason and I find it really helps. Your tip should be added to the top I think :P It also helps for calling out frictions...
    Ya I agree your focus target is your friend when tanking two enemies. Focus Garuda and start building your threat on add which ever one you are tanking at the time. and then from time to time just go to garuda to keep the aggro for a short time.
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  8. #18
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Exodus
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    A QOL issue for me is having to refocus target on Garuda every time she ports away. Is there a way to keep it locked on? Or is that just how it has to be.
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  9. #19
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    Vactus Serakai
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    A QOL issue for me is having to refocus target on Garuda every time she ports away. Is there a way to keep it locked on? Or is that just how it has to be.
    Sadly, that's just how it is. I hate it too, but we have to live with it.
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    Sweaty Betty
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    As warrior MTing garuda/suparna combo, MOST often, they will teleport, throw daggers (which you should avoid), then come back down and double wheel. Occasionally, they will do it about 10 seconds in before teleporting, but thats usually when theres some sort of dps issue with chirada. If everything going right, they will follow the usual pattern. So as a warrior, put a storm's path on both before they teleport. Then dodge daggers, go back in, hit vengeance, and thrill of battle. If WHM stoneskins you after thrill of battle, thats awesome mitigation. THen hit your inner beast on any target and I can survive a double wheel with 6-7k health left. Takes a bit of timing and practice, but its very manageable.
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