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  1. #121
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    BearGrylls's Avatar
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    Porkchop Sandwiches
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkyo View Post
    It only benefits the melee DPS.
    OT tanking Chirada allows the melee DPS not having to avoid Wicked Wheel (since Chirada only does Downburst which is a frontal cone AoE).
    Then once Chirada is down, OT takes Suprana (MT provokes Spiny) and again melee DPS are safe since Suprana loses WW one the other sister is down.
    Thanks! So if there are no melee DPS is it more beneficial for the OT to take Suparna first instead?
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  2. #122
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    Shinkyo's Avatar
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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BearGrylls View Post
    Thanks! So if there are no melee DPS is it more beneficial for the OT to take Suparna first instead?
    Yes, if you're all ranged (and assuming the group has enough dps), you'll be able to kill suprana before DWW removing that threat completely.

    TBH, even if OT and melee DPS are on Chirada, killing suprana first is still better because the tanks only have to trade spiny plume (instead of trading both spiny and Suprana).
    I've done all strats and it's my preferred one.
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  3. #123
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    Steffie's Avatar
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    Character
    Miya Malaguld
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    New tank here, only cleared Garuda EX once thanks to the echo buff.

    So my biggest problem in this fight is getting the aggro on me while trying to reposition the sisters and spiny during the second phase. I made a thread somewhere and someone replied telling me to use the Enmity combo that the OP mentioned. So the question i got here is how do the tanks know when the sisters will spawn so that you actually have the combo ready when sisters spawn. Is it just experience or there is like a fixed time to it ? Since i am pretty sure the combo will disappear if you don't use it after a while.

    Before i know of this enmity combo I usually just pop Fight or Flight and shield lob the sister and pray that healer don't generate too much aggro while i am spamming shield lob. Sometime the aggro got taken by healers, some time it don't.
    Also I have problem trying to provoke the second sister off the MT, I usually just use Provoke + Shield Lob to try and take aggro off MT but 3 out of 4 times, the aggro went right back to the MT. Do i need to physically walk over to the sister to do that Provoke and Enmity Combo to get second sister off the MT ? Am i doing something wrong in the things that i listed or is it just because the MT and I have too much gear difference ? I remember MT had 6.8k hp while i only had 6.1k hp pre-echo buff.
    Currently I am a PLD ilvl 83 with 6.3k hp. So far hadn't landed in a learning group that let me play MT. So tips concerning Main tanking would be nice too.
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  4. #124
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    Jitenshazuki's Avatar
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    Faint Murmur
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Steffie View Post
    So the question i got here is how do the tanks know when the sisters will spawn so that you actually have the combo ready when sisters spawn. Is it just experience or there is like a fixed time to it ?
    Fixed HP threshold. After plumes go shield oath and try keep using fast blade and until she screams "DIE" then savage blade, fight or flight off-gcd and rage of halone on Chi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steffie View Post
    Also I have problem trying to provoke the second sister off the MT
    That's probably MT's fault. MT should deselect Sup when it's time to pick her up. And abstain from using circle of scorn around that time. It's not a big problem during stone phase, but on vortex phase Sup should go on provoke + shield lob and MT should not make your work harder.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffie View Post
    Currently I am a PLD ilvl 83 with 6.3k hp. So far hadn't landed in a learning group that let me play MT. So tips concerning Main tanking would be nice too.
    I give you one. In every sister phase first Double WW comes 26 seconds after Garuda uses Slipstream. And when Chirada is dead, Garuda starts using WW 5-6 seconds after Slipstream. One strat is to leave Suprana with MT and have melee jump to her. But they should know about second WW pattern and MT shold give them enough space so they can dodge WW.
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    Last edited by Jitenshazuki; 04-03-2014 at 07:52 PM.

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