Why Does Titan (Hard) Make People Dumb...

[Ashira]

Am i the only one that did titan without any sort of rotation or clue by simply moving when he turned around...?

For DPS you can simply move out the way when things are thrown at you. Tanks don't need to do anything special, though if they're undergeared they won't survive Mountain Buster without either an experienced healer or rotating their mitigation buffs. As for healing, you really need to be able to read the fight to do it effectively; reacting after something has happened isn't really an option for a healer. Their ability to succeed lies in anticipation.

[Darkwalker53]

As for healing, you really need to be able to read the fight to do it effectively; reacting after something has happened isn't really an option for a healer. Their ability to succeed lies in anticipation.

This gospel is very true of any established and co-ordinated group, unfortunately for most who attempt Titan HM via PUGs and Duty Finder the reality is somewhat different. Remember as a healer we can heal many wounds but we can't cure stupid

[Ashira]

Remember as a healer we can heal many wounds but we can't cure stupid

You learn the cure for stupid at level 12; Raise. Hehe.

[Raminax]

That's a damn expensive cure for stupid, though.

[Serephine]

There's also lag, which I've seen countless times. There are videos of people getting knocked off while they were clearly out of Landslide before I even bother getting out.

Thank you!! I've been attempting Titan HM and no matter using DF or PF, any group that I am in can't seem to get it down.

My biggest problem is the puddles (or whatever they're called), because I never have a problem with landslides, the jump, or the bombs, but whenever I get stuck in a puddle, I can't seem to move fast enough, or I do get out- but still take a little bit of damage, then he does stomps, (or vise versa stomps then puddle), then the healers are so busy healing someone else that by the time the jump happens again I've either barely been healed or not healed at all...and then I die. And this is a vicious cycle of how I die.

Heal stacks seem to work better than not, but often times parties with DF don't consider them.

[Spawnie]

Thank you!! I've been attempting Titan HM and no matter using DF or PF, any group that I am in can't seem to get it down.

My biggest problem is the puddles

weight of the land ive memorised when they r gonna appear like after tulmur in phase 2 so i wait 3 secs then move around.... then next phase its right after landslide so i do the same thing cause if lag sets in n if i get caught in 1 atleast they arent stacked xD but i rarely get caught in 1 but lag has a habit of knockin me off with landslide when im no even close to it lol

[ImDingDing]

Thank you!! I've been attempting Titan HM and no matter using DF or PF, any group that I am in can't seem to get it down.

My biggest problem is the puddles (or whatever they're called), because I never have a problem with landslides, the jump, or the bombs, but whenever I get stuck in a puddle, I can't seem to move fast enough, or I do get out- but still take a little bit of damage, then he does stomps, (or vise versa stomps then puddle), then the healers are so busy healing someone else that by the time the jump happens again I've either barely been healed or not healed at all...and then I die. And this is a vicious cycle of how I die.

Heal stacks seem to work better than not, but often times parties with DF don't consider them.

You can pre-remember titan's rotation and begin to run before the puddle if you have a hard time to dodge after seeing them pop.

[SirGazuntai]

Macro's are great tools for Titan, especially if you have lag. Open up a separate chat window for Echo alone so anything you type in Echo doesn't disappear due to Titan talking crap. I had 5 Macro's set up for Titan that helped the first few times I fought him:

/echo P1: Landslide, Stomp, Repeat until Jump.
/echo P2: Plumes, Landslide, Stomp, Repeat until Jump.
/echo P3: Landslide, Plumes, Bombs, Landslide, Plumes, Prison, Stomp, Repeat until Jump.
/echo P4: Prison, Landslide, Plumes, Stomp, Prison, Landslide, Plumes, Earthern Fury.
/echo P5: Mountain Buster, Stomp, Plumes, Bombs, Landslide, Mountain Buster, Plumes, Prison, Landslide, Repeat until dead.

However, I find that remembering the entire rotation (or even reading the rotation) isn't necessary.

A good thing to do is create some macro's like these instead:

/echo Phase 1: No Plumes
/echo Phase 2: Plumes after each Stomp
/echo Phase 3: Plumes after each Landslide
/echo Phase 4: Plumes after each Landslide, again
/echo Phase 5: Plumes after Stomp and Mountain Buster

Since Plumes are the only part you have very little time to react to and are what kills most groups, it's the only one you have to anticipate (If you have problems with Landslide lag, make similar macro's by using the above rotations).

Phase 5 is a little different, though. For Phase 5, all I do is watch for Mountain Buster. If he uses Mountain Buster he will use Stomp > Plumes or just go straight to Plumes, depending where he is in his rotation.

What these macro's do is basically make you focus on 3 different moves, yet 1 at a time, the entire fight. Everything else is really easy to dodge when you understand them. As soon as you see the move that comes before Plumes, depending on the phase you're on, either begin moving or get ready to move. Before you know it you'll know exactly when Plumes are coming and you won't be the reason your group wipes.


MACRO FOR HEALERS/TANKS:

/p HEALERS/TANK Phase 5: MOUNTAIN BUSTER after each LANDSLIDE!

Healing Mountain Buster becomes extremely easy when you come to the realization that they come after each Landslide. In the end, Titan comes down to anticipation more than anything else.

[Sylari]

Part of the problem I think is that a lot of people don't know it's scripted and they try to dodge on reaction, which doesn't work as well as it should for whatever reason in this game.

The only thing I hate are people's excuses for why they cant dodge. "lag" being the prominent excuse. You can't use that excuse anymore! Not since 2.1 up'd the response time on character positioning!

2.1 was definitely a nice improvement but I still see fairly often people dash out of an AoE a second before it goes off and then take damage still.

I still occasionally run into confusing scenarios where Weight seems to go off way sooner than it should based on visual cues.

[Chryzo]

Lag is still a valid excuse:
* I even started filming again the other day because gardua X started to piss me off to no end. In P2, she ported, we kill spinny, we wait for aoe, we go in dome... 80% of the groups dies while being inside the dome on my screen... How do you want to clear content when the game network code and server response time sux big time ? Why do we have to jump / launch a skill / change direction to force the server with the position ?
* I had time when my FC mate could see what I was doing but I could not see what THEY were doing ... (so me => server was perfect, server => me was broken, true, they can go through diff internet routes but I blame it on the SE side of things). Once i also had the reverse, we actually were able to tell the guy lagging what to do on a Titan HM and where to move... he stilled die, but it worked for like 30 seconds ^^