If Titan HM should have taught you one lesson...

[Calyanare]

The stigma surrounding selling runs is because of the people who will not bother learning to play, and instead just use RMT to pay for wins, which will then enable them to fool people (once) into believing that they can play, because they have a relic.... Though by now enough Titan runs have been sold that a relic isn't an indicator of anything, which devalues it, which annoys a lot of people who got theirs without being carried, because it makes their accomplishment meaningless.

I probably could have worded that better, but that is why people don't like people who sell Titan runs.

[Ashira]

The stigma surrounding selling runs is because of the people who will not bother learning to play, and instead just use RMT to pay for wins, which will then enable them to fool people (once) into believing that they can play, because they have a relic.... Though by now enough Titan runs have been sold that a relic isn't an indicator of anything, which devalues it, which annoys a lot of people who got theirs without being carried, because it makes their accomplishment meaningless.

I probably could have worded that better, but that is why people don't like people who sell Titan runs.

Just because people didn't pay for it, doesn't mean they weren't carried.

[Calyanare]

Just because people didn't pay for it, doesn't mean they weren't carried.

True. I was carried. I quit 1.0 around level 15, people in my FC who got to 50 in 1.0 got there first and already had relics when I was ready for Titan. I didn't die and pulled my weight, but in my book that still counts as a carry... By that definition, though, it's very hard to get a relic without being carried nowadays anyway, since a win almost always uses someone who's already got theirs.

[permbanned]

Though by now enough Titan runs have been sold that a relic isn't an indicator of anything, which devalues it, which annoys a lot of people who got theirs without being carried, because it makes their accomplishment meaningless.

Relics became meaningless when 2.0 launched.

Fun Fact: The pre-nerf Ifrit Hard in 1.0 was harder than Titan hard in 2.0, which was still easier than the 17 minute dungeon speed runs and most of the job specific leves for the relic quest in 1.0.

In my opinion, and I don't think I'm alone here, Ifrit Extreme in 1.0 (final fight for relics) was more difficult than Twintania baring the twister gimmick (pre-nerf).