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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Only in the sense that is has the Final Fantasy name and it is an MMO. In that context it is also competing with every other MMO out there and all the previous Final Fantasies. When ARR came out there was also a drop in subs for most other MMO's, just like the release of any new MMO. You are trying to build a strawman around special pleading to get your point across. I think you have much stronger grounds to get things you would like in the game than following this red herring.

    Just trying to help you build a better argument.
    Like I said Mage, you can't say they made Final Fantasy 14 like WoW because they didn't want to compete with themselves for subscriptions when that is exactly what they are already doing. That just makes no sense to me.

    Secondly, it's not the same as other Final Fantasies in the sense these are the only two Final Fantasy games that require subscriptions that are online. So they are going to compete with another a lot more directly than previous Final Fantasies did. Not many people are going to want to doll out a monthly fee for two different games.

    And I appreciate you trying to help me make a better argument. That is sweet. But this was your argument/strawman. Not mine. I was just disagreeing with it. And the only reason I am even talking about this angle is because you brought it up.

    Personally I don't think competition between the two games had anything to do with their decision. SE just wanted to jump on the WoW bandwagon hoping for bigger profits like so many other MMORPGs have done. And I don't buy this theory of yours that it was done to accommodate Final Fantasy 11. But you - and others - can believe this if you want. But I am pretty sure it was just another tired attempt to emulate WoW hoping to get a piece of their action.
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    Last edited by Dale; 01-04-2014 at 09:01 PM.