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  1. #21
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    Bokchoy Mcnuggets
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  2. #22
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Last time I check, MNKs have a similar defensive attributes. or even higher than BRDs, and yet, I don't seem to have any problem or give a problem to our Healers when I pop up BfB during the last phase of T4.
    Use it at your own risk. Where i could do it to with no problem, i'd rather not doing it, i beat the last boss without it and with no problem at all.
    What the similar defensive attributes ? The one that restore 25% of your damage to healing ? An hit that will kill you will not be bypass by 10~hit you haven't had time to land.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexxus View Post
    Use it at your own risk. Where i could do it to with no problem, i'd rather not doing it, i beat the last boss without it and with no problem at all.
    What the similar defensive attributes ? The one that restore 25% of your damage to healing ? An hit that will kill you will not be bypass by 10~hit you haven't had time to land.
    If I have BFB ready near the end of Phase 6 I will use it without doubt (usually don't, since I usually use it at the beginning of Phase 6 to kill the Phase 5 Dread, but it will be up if I used it Phase 5 to kill the Knight). Any extra damage to finish faster is appreciated. And should enrage hit, I can always just click it off.
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  4. #24
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexxus View Post
    What the similar defensive attributes ? The one that restore 25% of your damage to healing ? An hit that will kill you will not be bypass by 10~hit you haven't had time to land.
    What I meant was Monks and Bards do have a similar defensive attributes interms of defense, HP, etc. I was comparing both.

    That being said, as a Bard, I don't seem to have problems with using BfB in the last phase, which is supposed to be the same when it comes to Monk.

    As for the second question (if that was a question) sorry, not being a grammar nazi, but I can't understand what you wanted to say.
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    Last edited by Thorauku; 01-04-2014 at 02:42 AM.

  5. #25
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    I'm not english, sorry that you don't understand.
    A friends told me the same as you, with the similar defensive attributes, but he was talking about Bloodbath, i though that were your point.
    Indeed, we have a good amount of HP, our defense is not as good as a drg, unless we use Fist of Earth without BfB (giving BfB a 5% damage increase and 15% Malus, where Fist of Fire and no BfB would give 5% damage / 10% Malus).

    I play the safety on the last phase. And i never had a problem yet defeating the last Dread without BfB, I'm not even sure it's up as i use it this way: At start for AoE > on Middle phase (The solo dread) > on One of the Two Dread, to kill it asap.

    I often tank the Knights (the blue one), Monk doesn't have a skill to lower their enmity, so i'd rather not use it on them.
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    Last edited by Nexxus; 01-04-2014 at 03:49 AM.

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  6. #26
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    David Carriere
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    BFB in a nutshell:

    Use it whenever you please. Obviously it is up to you to avoid dodge-able aoe and other damage.

    People who are so cautious ro advise against it are likely not very good monks. My honest opinion.

    If you are worried about damage intake where it's unavoiable (Like P6 in Turn 4) - Pop Bloodbath and Mantra to help out. Not always Mantra, but it is popped in that phase anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David1c View Post
    BFB in a nutshell:

    Use it whenever you please. Obviously it is up to you to avoid dodge-able aoe and other damage.

    People who are so cautious ro advise against it are likely not very good monks. My honest opinion.

    If you are worried about damage intake where it's unavoiable (Like P6 in Turn 4) - Pop Bloodbath and Mantra to help out. Not always Mantra, but it is popped in that phase anyhow.
    This guy would fall under the definition of bad dps.
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  8. #28
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    Alis Cefr
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    Quote Originally Posted by David1c View Post
    BFB in a nutshell:

    Use it whenever you please. Obviously it is up to you to avoid dodge-able aoe and other damage.

    People who are so cautious ro advise against it are likely not very good monks. My honest opinion.

    If you are worried about damage intake where it's unavoidable (Like P6 in Turn 4) - Pop Bloodbath and Mantra to help out. Not always Mantra, but it is popped in that phase anyhow.
    Intelligent use of BfB is hard on people. Also Bloodbath and Mantra will not save you from Titan Tumults.
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    Apollo Dioscuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by AldricBranchais View Post
    Intelligent use of BfB is hard on people. Also Bloodbath and Mantra will not save you from Titan Tumults.
    There's no reason to die to tumults just because you have BfB active. You only have to survive 4 stomps, and you have three sources of increased healing.
    Play with better healers I guess.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziddyt View Post
    There's no reason to die to tumults just because you have BfB active. You only have to survive 4 stomps, and you have three sources of increased healing.
    Play with better healers I guess.
    BFB will kill a DRG in Phase 5 stomps without Foresight active (and if its late in the phase still may)...MNK with BFB active without Foresight won't survive at all. Maybe Mantra can save them...but that's assuming the heals land at the right times. Heals are off by a hair...MNK is dead.
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