More FF-esque Mob Special Characteristics

[Parodine]

I wouldn't mind elemental resistances, but the way BLM and Thaumaturge is set-up in this game is terrible for it, and I doubt they're gonna rework that job.

In FFXI, elemental resistances worked because BLM's had access to the 6 elemental spells and so always had tools. It's not the case in FFXIV, obviously, and blizzard/fire being their direct dmg dealing tools...I'd love if it was more of a classic BLM, but they won't make it that way, that ship has sailed. If we can't even get them to make Egi's slightly bigger with more details, this seems like a lost cause unfortunately.

Some of the other things though would be easily implemented. I still don't know why cure doesn't dmg undead. =/ C'mon, now.

[CrystalRainbow]

it doesn't feel like Final Fantasy without this.

[Eekiki]

Right that's why we all stacked WHM on Ifrit and spammed Blizzaga on Garuda.

Yep, people don't stack Bards now or specifically want casters for certain Coil Turns. Oh, and Ranged aren't preferred in CT for Atomos or anything.

Quoting myself:

The people who believe that those are requirements are scrubs.

[PallasLloyd]

Yep, people don't stack Bards now or specifically want casters for certain Coil Turns. Oh, and Ranged aren't preferred in CT for Atomos or anything. Honestly, Yoshi should have just came out and admited he wanted to completely design a universalized battle system even though the most generic MMOs out there does a bit more than ARR is doing and no one cares lol. Heck, look at Ragnarok Online, grindy as all heck yet it has cards you can plop onto your stuff and even cast mage spells as your melee - that battle system is more unique and in depth than ARR's and those of us who played RO knows just how unbalanced it was lol.

Oh I'm right there with you. I'm seriously amused they have the audacity to charge 15 dollars a month for this compared to what is out there for free and buy to play.

[PallasLloyd]

Quoting myself:

Good for you! Unfortunately you entirely missed the point of both posts.

[Tupsi]

Quoting myself:

You may feel as such but it does directly contradict the whole: "It doesn't happen in FFXIV" argument lol. If anything it's worse in ARR - Yoshi specifically wanted to get rid of speed runs because that along with hamlet seals are why most didn't even bother with a relic in 1.2x, not because it was hard but because speed runs are pointless, yet speed runs required a very specific setup to be considered an actual speed runs. So you have stacking and speed runs. So while by design it's not a requirement, how are the people who play the game actually setting up the runs?

The irony is, if this game was more like a Final Fantasy game, it would actually work in favor for what Yoshi is trying to do balance wise. Sadly though, as someone said, the way he decided to set up classes (universalized) pretty much kills any uniqueness that could be brought into the battle system.

[Aegis]

I wouldn't mind elemental resistances, but the way BLM and Thaumaturge is set-up in this game is terrible for it, and I doubt they're gonna rework that job.

In FFXI, elemental resistances worked because BLM's had access to the 6 elemental spells and so always had tools. It's not the case in FFXIV, obviously, and blizzard/fire being their direct dmg dealing tools...I'd love if it was more of a classic BLM, but they won't make it that way, that ship has sailed. If we can't even get them to make Egi's slightly bigger with more details, this seems like a lost cause unfortunately.

Some of the other things though would be easily implemented. I still don't know why cure doesn't dmg undead. =/ C'mon, now.

Actually, at release Conjurer had all the elemental nukes. (Still think CNJ should have become BLM rather than THM).

Even when Yoshi took over and introduced jobs he made Thunder, Fire and Blizzard interact as they should do (no Fire on Ifrit). There was quite a bit of outcry in the beta forums when Yoshi made it clear that he was removing elemental interactions. Essentially, the Spells could be renamed Spell 1, Spell 2, Spell 3 ... Magic 1, Magic 2, Magic 3.

His logic was to stop one job being overpowered or underpowered by the nature of the resistances, but to be honest, this was never a problem in XI where this system existed. Black Mage were used for a lot of things, but there was never an endgame event where other jobs weren't wanted also. Heck if anything, Sleepga II was the more in demand part of BLM and we get that now with no recast.

My reason in making this thread now is that Yoshi-P's stated goal has failed. We do prioritise certain jobs for certain events over others. So if we're going to do that anyway, let's at least bring back some FF staples while we're at it.

[Raminax]

So essentially, because they messed up twice or thrice, they should stop trying and regress? Did you guys adopt the same attitude during the apparent travesty that 1.0 was?

I can appreciate stuff like curious aldgoats and defensive crabs, but screw resistances. They'll just make balancing an even bigger nightmare. <_<

[ZohnoReecho]

People prioritize other jobs because they never cared to try other strategies, not because it's not possible.
The first dumbass out there said "hey guyz, garuda ex gotta be done with ranged onry" and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

[Tupsi]

So essentially, because they messed up twice or thrice, they should stop trying and regress? Did you guys adopt the same attitude during the apparent travesty that 1.0 was?

I can appreciate stuff like curious aldgoats and defensive crabs, but screw resistances. They'll just make balancing an even bigger nightmare. <_<

Not really - PvP makes the biggest balance nightmare when they don't separate it from PvE.

People prioritize other jobs because they never cared to try other strategies, not because it's not possible.
The first dumbass out there said "hey guyz, garuda ex gotta be done with ranged onry" and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

Read: Enrage strategy for Turn 2. Notice how it can be done any other way, yet this is now the common and pretty much 99% way to do it now?