Pharos Sirius - Too difficult for randoms

[IndigoHawk]

I agree Pharos is too hard for DF as is. So far in roulette I've got this one a few times, and beat it less than half of the time.

Mostly the problem is Siren, although a couple of the other bosses can be problems, too. Siren should be adjusted so that it's easier to tell when she's going to spawn in middle and when she's going to rush middle. Or maybe just remove that mechanic and always have her spawn in middle. And I might also change it so that only 1 sergeant spawns each time, and it goes for the tank. The healer already has a lot of stuff to worry about in that fight without needing to run from crawlers.

[Ruri]

Beat it the first day it was out with a normal DF party. Communicate and have patience and don't kick people due to a few wipes. We wiped a lot but still finished the dungeon the first time a the end just by learning as we went.

[Kitkat]

The Dungeon is a bit difficult yes, but it isn't so much that randoms will just fail. I've been in random groups that have been great, and others that haven't been so great. One we actually had a healer who had all their gear break by the time we got to Siren, and it wasn't due to use dying a multitude of times.

This goes back to the problem where people just expect others to be experienced and the greatest players ever. Honestly if that is what you want, then be sure to do a premade group of friends/LS/FC members instead of expecting that everyone will live up to your expectations. Additionally, it doesn't help to be rude, condescending, or full on rage when you haven't even explained anything to newer people.

[Akuha]

At least you got to the Siren, or even just the Zu. 9 out of 10 roulette parties I get with that place can't even get past the first boss. And then beyond that half of those successful first boss victories crumble at the Zu. Fortunately the DF gods smiled upon me and graced me with a few unbelievably good parties that cleared it, and relatively easily at that. And the loot at the end is... well... underwhelming. I'm pretty sure it's the same stuff that you would've found in AK pre-2.1.

On a side note the item level req for that dungeon is completely absurd. If you pug it with a bunch of people that don't know what they're doing, I'd say you have about an equal chance to clear it as you would with Titan HM, given the same party. Item level should be at LEAST 55 for that place.

[Dano]

dungeon is fun and awesome, it's actually not brain dead easy and require you to be reading what the boss is doing.

Kill eggs? make the mother angry and stomps you. Don't kill eggs? you get adds that hit like trucks. Only kill the eggs that are flashing, have the tank stoneskin the healers/dps while she stomps. Dodge tornedos when she flies high, rinse repeat.

[Vili]

When I get this stupid dungeon, which is in no way ilvl48, I leave. I'm 2/16, what the hell kind of odds are those? ilvl should be 65 at least. I know you can't account for stupid people, but I have been in groups where they could not put out the damage because of there gear. Last time I won, i was ilvl82, and everyone had relics and knew how to do it. Getting that in roulette though is a miracle. I'm all for a challenge, it was fun with the group that knew how to do it, but when your group can't pass the first boss, something is wrong.

[Tlamila]

which is in no way ilvl48,

They really totally screwed up with new dungeons level requirements. But seriously.

[Dalavon]

Why can't people just enjoy the damn game? Stop complaining that it's to hard. If you want easy then go back to WoW. No one kept you there that long.

I've managed to clear it several times in random, even with the healing reduction debuff going EVERYTIME in my last run.

[Appleh4x]

Dungeon ilvl should be 60+ for Pharos, a healer with ilvl 48 can't possibly get through this. I regret so much unlocking this dungeon because it always puts me in here for roulette (and I always leave.) I'm a WAR in all i90 and was just in a group that didn't make it past the second set of mobs because the healer had all sorts of level 38-45 gear and had no clue what AF armor is.

[Tlamila]

Dungeon ilvl should be 60+ for Pharos, a healer with ilvl 48 can't possibly get through this. I regret so much unlocking this dungeon because it always puts me in here for roulette (and I always leave.)

I simply stopped doing roulette after seeing I always ended there. Sure I miss on a nice number of myth, but I'd feel like a jerk for leaving after entering.