Pharos Sirius - Too difficult for randoms

[Leash]

I enjoy Pharos, I guess I just like the challenge. I've ran it at least 20 times, only failed once due to time. I've always Tanked, only ran DPS once with an FC pt.

I usually get stuck with those that do run the roulette too when I Tank. I'm that one player that convinces everyone not to leave and that the dungeon can be fun and practice just makes you better for the next time, hahahaha.

I even have a note pad saved to my desktop so I can just copy and paste the battle strategy for the run for any new comers.

I think the mechanics are good for players to learn strategies. I've seen over geared players play like crap all the time in CT. Its the player, not the gear that makes them good.

Players need to just let go and not get overly upset at a wipe or fail. It is just a game.

It does feel good when I do get those players that say they've never finished this dungeon and you take them all the way through.

[Nyaanyaa]

Got Pharos in DR on WHM with a SMN, DRG and PLD. PLD and DRG quit on arrival. The DRG was replaced right away with another SMN, not so the tank. Went ahead anyway...





...and beat the first boss. New tank arrived during the fight (but was locked out), one shot everything else afterwards.

[Tlamila]

Oh yes...AF2, Relic+1....cool story. Nobody doubted it's ard if you're way overgeared.

[Kajidourden]

Nope. Get better or go home. the ONLY part you could POSSIBLY have a case for is siren.

Pharos is the first new dungeon we've gotten that's actually NEW. By this I mean not only that it's a new location, but the enemies are new, the types of traps in the enviornment are new, everything. Other than siren, I am way happier to run this than WP or AK for the bajillionth time.

Edit: If I can heal it in half AF and half DL and a GC weapon....no excuses.

[Nyaanyaa]

Oh yes...AF2, Relic+1....cool story. Nobody doubted it's ard if you're way overgeared.

Really? I see people that are "way overgeared" quitting as soon as they see roulette picked Pharos Sirius, and I see people that are "way overgeared" incapable of stunning/silencing Lunatic Voice, or complaining about the "high difficulty" in the dungeon (I honestly think Valkurm Dunes parties in FFXI are harder) etc.

[givemeraptors]

Got Pharos in DR on WHM with a SMN, DRG and PLD. PLD and DRG quit on arrival. The DRG was replaced right away with another SMN, not so the tank. Went ahead anyway...

...and beat the first boss. New tank arrived during the fight (but was locked out), one shot everything else afterwards.

Love it. Nothing better than wacking a boss with a mostly/totally wiped party.

[SpookyGhost]

Oh yes...AF2, Relic+1....cool story. Nobody doubted it's ard if you're way overgeared.

Pharos is easier with less gear, surprisingly. ALL the bosses do things based on health %, the only reason that any of them are hard is because your DPS is so good that you are pushing phases into other phases without dealing with the first one yet. An easy example is the first boss (and probably the hardest boss when you overgear it), when he spawns 2 adds and 2 people get 1 stack of the crystal debuff each that SHOULD be close to falling off when the next adds spawn. However, if you have enough DPS, you'll push him into his next phase before they're close to falling off OR you'll push him while the first 2 adds are STILL UP. You have to literally stop DPS on him just to avoid this happening. Zu is the same thing. Too many eggs at the same time = likely she'll enrage = likely everyone will die. Siren is the most forgiving as her adds are spaced pretty far apart, but they're still on the % based timer.

The hardest hitting thing in that dungeon is the mobs that cast Bane 3. You don't need to overgear it and it's honestly so much easier to deal with the mechanics of the dungeon with LESS gear. I don't know why people think PS is so incredibly difficult, you just can't ignore the mechanics of every boss.

[Akiva_Ninazu]

Doing this with pre-mades is fine, but PS in roulette is a nightmare. For some reason, the community at large doesn't seem to have learned the fights in PS the same way they have the other runs, so the odds of a face smash seem to be a lot higher. While SpookyGhost's claims have some merit, there's not much you can expect from someone who's iLVL>50. Anyone with another class that's higher would know they can't go in lowbie and expect to pull it off ... and that goes double for healers.

I'm to the point know where if anyone says they're brand new or is in less than full DL, I'll automatically vote abandon and explain why. It's just not worth an hour or more of my life to try to push new people through it again and again and again. I'll take the half-hour lockout, go fishing, and get on with things.

[Bushido_Brown]

And this is how people never get better. We've ALL been green in a dungeon before. Not giving folks the chance to learn is what causes these unnecessary dungeon nerf pleads. Not everyone learns from just watching videos. Since the only time I'm hitting these dungeons is for my daily roulette now, I don't mind walking the group through each boss scenario, be it as my DRG or my WAR. I completely agree about it being harder with lower level gear *and honestly people should not be jumping into dungeons at the minimum iLVL, its as if you're asking for a carry from the group,* but it's still passable if you take your time. After the 1st boss, the rest of the dungeon (even Siren so long as the healer knows to keep you topped up in certain situations) is cake. When the dungeon is done, collect the 3 commendations afterwards

[L-D-Omlette]

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This guy gets it.

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So does he.

PS isn't hard, you just have to know how to play your class and stop watching netflix.