How are warriors after 2.1?

[Leiron]

I'm going off of what Maelwys says he's experienced.

Odd.
I've had the opposite scenario.
I've been seeing Paladin in Shield Oath being equal to or greater than that of a Paladin in sword oath during t2.
Wasn't seeing them creep up in terms of agro like they used to.
Is there a way to see the actual enmity numbers?

[Maelwys]

Odd.
I've had the opposite scenario.
I've been seeing Paladin in Shield Oath being equal to or greater than that of a Paladin in sword oath during t2.
Wasn't seeing them creep up in terms of agro like they used to.
Is there a way to see the actual enmity numbers?

Flash (and to a lesser extent Spirits Within) were used way back to get raw enmity comparisons between two tanks - it's how we figured out something was wrong with Lalafel threat. But if you want to compare threat generation between Oaths it'd probably be better to have two tanks equip equal gear/stats (raw AF and a level one sword is useful) and use the same potency ability (e.g. "Fast Blade") a set number of times to test the raw enmity... and then an enmity-multiplier combo (like Fast Blade-Savage Blade) to test the multipliers. Unfortunately this method will not be as reliable due to random damage variance, so the sample size would probably have to be quite large.

Also, I noticed in testing Cover mechanics that there is a discrepancy sometimes in WHEN you triggered your Oath. If one PLD has Shield Oath up BEFORE going into a new instance, and another PLD puts their Oath up AFTERWARDS then it may also make a difference (sounds stupid I know, but it happens with Cover).

My suspicions are that both Oaths generate roughly the same level of raw threat on each swing and weaponskill, but the more frequent Autoattacks in Sword Oath put it slightly ahead.

[Leiron]

Flash part

Sorry had 75 characters over the limit so I snipped you.

Thats what we did during t2.
My gear is roughly equal to the other Paladin's. (his shield was better and his gloves).
But the enmity generation for him was lesser, he wasn't generating the same amount or coming close to it.
He always dropped further and further away.

Of course judging from the other posts, he hadn't swapped from shield oath to sword oath.