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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siobu View Post
    To anyone joining late, I'd like to re-post this image which demonstrates how I view the imbalance in our current world:

    http://seahorror.com/thoughts.jpg


    It is unnatural.

    Traveling from one corner of our maps to another does not provide any sense of adventure, progression, or new experiences.

    This thread has only gotten to where it is due to unanimous agreement. No, or little, debate has driven us this far.

    We need a world. I need a world. I need to know what the future holds for us. For all of us.

    Square, won't you please tell us?
    qufim island is a zone , and huge if u include the tunnel to behemoth dominions , add the Qufim tower (and thasts huge too with lots of floors D: and gigas....and goblins /panic)

    and yeah FFXI has a progression and very simple at that

    CITYS (bastok , sandoria, windurst)

    2 zoneas for lows = East and West (sarutabaruta , ronfaure) North/ south gustaber , include the "dungeons there " , because i leveled insided the sarutabaruta towers too (amazing farming zone for lows , lots of bats and gobs to farm)

    Now 2 zones 10-20 ,zones 1 step toward jeuno (central hub)

    la theine , konschat , and tharongi canyon , and the 3 beastmen stronholds (ghelsba , giddeus , and mines)

    Now 20-30 zones

    Jugner Forest , Pashow marshlands ,Meripha. Mountins

    30-40 zones

    Rolanberry , Batallia downs, Sauromugue

    Now Jeuno !

    u usally do a trip to jeuno @ 20 (chocobo quest) isnt easy but doable

    all zones have dungeons in them and more than 1 actually.

    I dont recall any zone w/o a dungeon ....

    so yeah FFXI makes sense ...... FFXIV sucks
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    Thank you Mack and Richard for your work.

    I won't ask for a time frame, but I will ask of them: What can we expect? -What- ?

    A completely new beginning for the whole world? Or adjustments to our current?

    So long as they can promise a true adventure is at the end of the tunnel, I will hold the faith. And I won't question the time it takes to make such astronomical change.

    But, what is included in this 're-design', I wonder? Is it the change they are currently performing on the Shroud? Is it a true world? But are they leaving the other areas behind... for now?

    I feel a little lost in a cloud of mixed messages and contradiction. The mention of a 'redesign,' but the addition of stale dungeons and quest hubs. Conflicting? What could it mean?

    I appreciate every one's continued thoughts and opinions on this matter. I enjoy your ideas and your concerns.

    Let's be heard.
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    This is not 100% accurate but it's close. When one of our fluent JP speakers is on tomorrow afternoon I'll be sure to get up the complete translation.
    Thanks for the translation. So it seems the concerns are spread across the entire playerbase, I'd assume too that the french and german forums have some concerns pertaining to this too as well as other people not classified under a forum. This is the best news for me so far, I hope that we still get an official answer on the NA forums from the devs and details on what they plan to do at least (i.e., is it going to be simple redesigns, add aesthetic stuff here or there or what entails "radical refurbishment" because radical may mean something to us as we get carried away with our imaginations here and might mean something completely different to Yoshinda and company).

    EDIT: and Siobu just beat me to saying the same exact thing .
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    Last edited by Mack; 06-10-2011 at 05:36 PM.

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    Oh, Mack, I was just about to quote you, too. :P

    Here's to a crown.
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    Last edited by Siobu; 06-10-2011 at 05:37 PM.

  5. #275
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    Thenk you Mack and Richard for the good work.
    i guess we'll get an answer from the dev team soon ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack View Post
    So it seems the concerns are spread across the entire playerbase, I'd assume too that the french and german forums have some concerns pertaining to this too as well as other people not classified under a forum.
    Didnt find anything about this on the german forum, but i'll start a discussion there, even though the german forum isnt really lively :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siobu View Post
    Oh, Mack, I was just about to quote you, too. :P

    Here's to a crown.
    LOL :P .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meph View Post
    Thenk you Mack and Richard for the good work.
    i guess we'll get an answer from the dev team soon ^^


    Didnt find anything about this on the german forum, but i'll start a discussion there, even though the german forum isnt really lively :P
    Yea no loss in starting one that'd be really cool, see what type of reaction it gets.
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    This is not 100% accurate but it's close. When one of our fluent JP speakers is on tomorrow afternoon I'll be sure to get up the complete translation.
    Thank you, Richard! This actually gives me quite a bit of hope. It turns out the JP community shares our concern, after all!

    I'll wait for a bit more information before I officially break out in happy dance. I just hope Yoshi-P fully understands what needs to be done to remedy this problem. As others have stated, it'll take more than quest hubs, dungeons and bandaids. Maybe the landscape changes will come as quest hubs are implemented. Here's hoping.

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    Fortunately, with everyone's help, this thread is almost as long as the Japanese thread which triggered an official response. Surely, this warrants one as well?

    To restate my thoughts once more to any new arrivals clicking the 'last' button:

    Because of 3 zones completely performing the work of multiple regions, taking characters from 1 to 50 just outside the city's walls, I worry that all further content will be build within these current zones. Why would Square Enix make new zones, when these do their jobs for them?

    However, we need new zones. Without them, we may never experience a true adventure from a fresh recruit to a seasoned fighter. One that we can look back on and count the milestones we stepped over to get there. To feel nostalgia years later.

    Currently, "dungeons" and extra camps/hubs are being placed around our current world. Is this their solution? Or a bandaid? They speak of re-designing the Shroud, but what does it mean? Are we merely making the corridors wider?

    We do not know where we will be in a year, or two years: Faraway lands, airship rides away from home, or just outside Ul'dah's walls?

    Thanks guys. Danke, Meph.
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  11. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siobu View Post
    Danke, Meph.
    Bitte ^^

    This needs to be adressed in every forum, so maybe anyone can raise such a topic on the french forum if it isnt already?
    (I would but i cant speak french :P)
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